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  • Or, this is how capitalism has always worked. See Enron for example. And we all just got so enthralled by the number (praised be its rise) that we took the guardrails off. The rising tidal wave which will flood all the land, raises all boats after all.

    The goal of capitalism is not to produce goods, it is to create value for the owners of the capital. See also why techbros are turning on EA and EA (which EA is which, is left as an exercise to the reader).

  • links to AI 2027.

    In Dutch we have a saying (from a commercial, well done on the advertisers there) 'Wij van Wc-eend adviseren Wc-eend' (we from the company Wc-eend, suggest you get Wc-eend), which seems appropriate here. It is used in a sarcastic context when somebody gives advice with a clear conflict of interest.

    Anyway, just going from the title, 'X is exponential' has been the pro AI cry since the singularity is near. (Which said, well individual tech follows an S-curve, but all the techs combined are exponential, and variants on that). All seems very hopeium, immortality is near!

  • Why spend so much time worrying about this I wonder, does he think that if he stops the acausalrobotgod it doesnt count if he did it for ego reasons?

    Also this sentence is ver funny:

    No offense, Ben, but this is very simple stuff - in fact, it's right there in the Zen definition of altruism I quoted. This is a very straightforward trap by comparison with any of the political-emotion mindtwisters, much less the subtle emergent phenomena that show up in a pleasure-pain architecture.

    Emp mine, very simple stuff, creates a very weird sentence after that.

  • Part of the thing is also that compared to Germany we have less of a feeling for hierarchies (not that they do not exist, see how parts of our language have sexism build in). Which leads to interesting moments good and bad. But yeah we are flat in various ways.

  • Any mention of my name is now often met by a claim that I keep a harem of young submissive female mathematicians who submit to me and solve math problems for me, and that I call them my "math pets".

    I see he did the whole 'making an accusation sound more silly to undermine it' thing here, nobody said things about a whole harem of mathematicians, who just solve math problems. Nice steelman. I expect nothing less of somebody who was the subject of seven broadway plays.

    (Amazing he basically admits the story is true after that, but continues to debunk the strawman).

  • Blow the one who created Braid? (Because he has been known to be iffy for a while now (for example https://www.reddit.com/r/GamerGhazi/comments/7kp08e/jonathan_blow_the_witness_braid_thinks_women_are/ ).

    only to later claim that actually you are Dutch and it is in your culture to be an asshole.

    This is such bullshit, our idea is that we are direct. We don't get that this comes off as being an asshole. If they use this as an excuse to be an asshole (which is a step worse than being an asshole by being direct), they are worse than a normal asshole. (Really hope it wasn't somebody I know).

    And sadly I don't have any good help to offer. I don't know either. And the manifesto not blaming wider society, and the profit seeking/capitalist elements is a bit silly.

  • Do like somebody left a nice trap there:

    You write "you can buy it here" but there is no link.

    However, you can do better: the whole thing is available for free online. https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/fiction/accelerando/accelerando-intro.html on the author's website is a good place to start; it has links to various versions of the book and also a little bit of explanatory material.

    (Unrelated, hope Stross's recovery is going well, sorry for being a bit parasocial relationshippy here).

    I like singularity sky more as a sort of critical book about how a post scarcity singularity would be easy to mess up. Very funny that it inspired the US to give free phones to Afghans to try and combat the Taliban.

  • I mean I even get that you would use some embellishment for entertainment value. But if the person who made the play writes you and corrects you, you should stop doing that, esp if you are doing the whole Rationalism. But yeah, that isn't what the rich and powerful do, they make up shit and ignore corrections all the time. The power of being stubborn.

    A while back somebody from themotte (when it still was on reddit) said about sneerclub vs themotte that the sneerclub wanted to do what is right, and they wanted to figure out what is true. And I often think about that when people in the Rationalist space do not really want to figure out what is true.

  • A jokingly Whorfian mind-lock, putting the jargon file in a sie like that and not converting it to a wiki. Second one, wanting to put everything in a wiki.

    Not sure if smoothbrains and IQ levels are correlated, so perhaps 160IQ smoothies exist next to 100IQ smoothies. (Do agree the insult is perhaps not a thing we should be using (and this last sentence was also the only serious part of this post))

  • SneerClub @awful.systems

    The Rationality Trap

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    Move over TESCREAL, R9PRESENTATIONALism is here.

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    Embryo selection, thinking about risk the wrong way: What we talk about when we talk about risk.

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    Death and the Gorgon - Greg Egan

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    Interview with a former Effective Vampire^M Altruist.

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    Eliezer complements Musk, Musk negs Eliezer