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  • But plenty do. Everything from "this is how dish A should be eaten" to "leave your shoes at the door" to "we should be nice to our parents" is a belief,

    They're a belief. They don't DEMAND you belief in them, else go to hell / get isolated by your family.

    Are you going to arrest parents for teaching their kids that dessert is supposed to be eaten after dinner?

    Is anybody discussing arrest in the current situation? You're pulling a classic reductio ad absurdum.

    So parents should only be allowed to teach rightthink, and the state has a duty to use its monopoly on violence to intervene whenever parents attempt to teach children wrongthink (wrongthink being anything other than what the state, representing society, has deemed as rightthink). You just trampled all over freedom of thought and conscience with that statement, and PS: Fascists can use the exact same line of thought to ban pride flags and minority cultures.

    This is not an attempt to ban parents passing their religion on to their kids, it's merely preventing them from doing so in school, and giving some children potentially their only taste of gender equality that they'll receive before they turn 18.

    Yeah you're gonna have to back that one up with numbers.

    You've made a lot of claims yourself, feel free to back them up any time.

    In many societies schoolgirls are, in fact, expected or forced to wear skirts rather than pants for school (see: Japan), and as for the rest: Why do women wear women's clothing rather than men's clothing if not for cultural indoctrination? Why do men not wear skirts and tank tops if not for cultural indoctrination?

    We're not talking 'many cultures'. We're talking about Sweden, and last I checked they did not force girls to wear skirts. For the record I'm against forced uniform segregation by gender.

  • every tradition or cultural value is an example of indoctrination

    Most traditions or cultural values don't demand belief, unlike religion.

    why should they be raised to believe in human rights

    Because we as a society have decided that these are the values we wish to protect and propagate. We have made no such decisions with regards to religion, in fact likely the opposite.

    There's no self-consistent logical framework that would allow one to single out religion in this manner.

    I just pointed one out.

    Hell, more specifically on the matter of clothing, why is indoctrinating girls into wearing burkas bad but indoctrinationg them into wearing skirts not?

    Nobody's advocating indoctrinating them into wearing skirts. I don't see anybody protesting them wearing pants or w/e.

  • So, religious indoctrination? Because kids are so qualified to be figuring out what mystical stuff they believe in at the age of 9. I'm all for religious freedom for adults, you're free to worship whatever you like. I'm against brainwashing kids into religion via family the moment they're born. Give them a chance to figure it out for themselves.

  • Granted that you didn't know, hence it wasn't malicious. And in this day and age remaking memes is common and nobody blinks an eye. But no, there's no requirement that the image contains author / copyright info / whatever. It's legally on the person reusing it to know and abide by the rules.

    Then again, I'm sure Randall would fully support what you're doing in this image.

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