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  • I think that if there are historians left to analyze this in 30 years they’ll probably drop the start line around the assassination of Charlie Kirk. There definitely are multiple different factions even within the conservative movement they haven’t completely turned on one another, the left is similarly at odds with itself.

    When we see the White House calling on generals to be prepared to invade American cities with the military, judge’s houses are being burned down after giving verdicts disliked for political inconvenience, Chicago, Portland, LA, DC are all seeing extreme escalations in state sanctioned violence, states sending their national guard to other states to quell chaos that isn’t there, and mass shootings nearly everyday, sometimes several. To me that’s civil war that’s started heating up.

    But if you’d rather call what were currently seeing and experiencing something like The Troubles in Ireland and wait until the conflict is even more overt feel free.

  • To be clear I wasn’t trying to say “how bad it’s gotten” broadly, just that Kimmel specifically is surreal to me because of how I first became acquainted with him as a kid, but you are totally right overall

  • Which is why all the factions are trying to get their agenda advanced as quickly as possible before he croaks. The techno-feudalist side had the advantage with their boy JD poised to take over but removing him is much more politcally viable for the Christian nationalists in congress

  • That’s not how civil wars work anymore, it’ll be akin to a Balkanization where there are multiple different factions, upstart states, militias and insurgencies. The second will be nothing like the first. The Syrian civil war is a decent smaller scale modern example

    Edit: if you’d like a good idea of what it will look like I HIGHLY recommend the fist season of the excellent podcast It Could Happen Here by Robert Evans. It’s from 2019 but wildly prescient

  • Not so much that he’s a comedian, but the specific comedian he is, I would be much less surprised if say Jon Stewart was in the same position. And I’m not knocking Jimmy it’s just been a really strange journey to get here

  • Kinda but he’d been dabbling around politics for decades, I remember watching Fox and friends with my super conservative parents when I was in middle and high school and Trump would call in once a week to talk about shit. This is around 2003. Kimmel was always about dick jokes

  • It’s still fucking with me that a man i first encountered as the introducer of women jumping on trampolines on the Man Show as a horny 11 year old is somehow a relevant character in the end of democracy in the United States