My point was that if the man is still 'armed', he hasn't been 'disarmed', he just has one less (type of) gun. For example, if I told you that there was a man in my street with two guns, and then added that he'd now been disarmed (forcibly or otherwise), you would assume that he now had zero guns.
The fact that he didn't call them trash is the salient point here.
I mean, apart from anything else, the word he used, whatever it was applied to, was 'garbage'.
disarm
If a man had an assault rifle and a handgun, and he put down the assault rifle, would you describe him as 'unarmed'? If so, I don't think you can describe removing assault rifles as 'disarming' people.
No, he didn't. Both the context and the grammar make it clear that my interpretation is correct. Even if you interpret it unsumpathetically, the inference that it's 'all' Trump supporters is something you've added.
Any Trump supporter pretending to be offended by what Biden didn't actually say is in any case a massive hypocrite, because Trump built his political career on being offensive. They can't turn around now and act all offended unless they also repudiate Trump.
That's part of the reason I'm sharing it here!
Anyway, I'm sure there's a non-zero number of conservative-leaning readers of the NYT. Every one of them who's swayed away from Trump is a win.
He didn't. "The only garbage I see is his supporter's" garbage, i.e, it's the possessive "'s". The clue here is 'is', singular. If he meant a group of people, he'd have said 'are', plural.
Anyway, Trump called the whole country a garbage can, so if you're so desperately offended by your misunderstanding of Biden's comments, I guess you're also pretty torn up about Trump's actual comments, right?
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/30532463
He was a secret Marxist all along. The Daily Mail was right!
Missing the vital context that Trump keeps praising Hitler, and that's the reason people are making the comparison.
A year after completion, an innovative UK river ‘reset’ project has been hailed a success. It could provide a template for tackling some of the impacts of more extreme weather events.
Like I've said, it's not a matter of owing her votes. I just think that you shouldn't use your vote in a way that will make things worse.
I've not ascribed any views to you beyind what you've said here, and I'd appreciate if you didn't do the same to me. I don't think you support Trump, but it is a fact that your current plans make a Trump win more likely. It's precisely because I don't believe you support Trump (and in particular what he'd do in Gaza) that I think you should reconsider that plan.
Anyway, we're going round in circles here. Unless you can show to me that voting for Stein will have something other than a wholly negative outcome for Gaza or anywhere else, I'm not going to change my view that it's a mistake for you to do so.
And if she doesn't, you'll use your vote to make things worse? As I say, doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
In fairness to the guy, he has now responded.
I'm not assuming that you are inclined to vote for Harris - you've made it clear that you are not!
What I'm saying is that the course of action you're advocating (voting for Jill Stein) can only have the opposite outcome to the one you want (because it will lead to the election of Donald Trump and a still worse situation in the Middle East). This being the case, you should reconsider your course of action.
And just to add to your point: it's not hypothetical that Trump would destabilise the Middle East, because he actually did so in his first term by giving de facto recognition to Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and by unilaterally tanking the Iran deal in exchange for nothing. The current situation is already partially Trump's fault and, as you say, he will only make it worse if he wins.
Here's a member of the Stein campaign saying they know they can't win and want Harris to lose: 'We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic. We could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan.' This is straight from the Stein campaign. Not 'MSM Democrat propaganda' at all, but the Stein campaign itself acknowledging that they can't win and that what they mean by 'winning' is Harris losing - which entails Trump winning.
Again, you can blame anyone you like for this, but if you vote for Stein, the consequences for Gazans will be worse. To do so is, per your own values, nonsensical.
Jill Stein's platform is, explicitly, not to win but to cause Harris to lose. Harris losing means Trump winning. Trump winning will be even worse for Gaza (and Ukraine, the US, and the rest of the world).
If your red line is Gaza, but your refusal to cross that line will make things in Gaza worse, it is straightforwardly the case that your tactics are wrong. 'I cannot condone X, so I'm going to do something that can only make X even worse' is not a position you can hold.
Jill Stein's party is explicitly fighting to help Trump win. Stein is a pro-Trump spoiler. Voting for her is about the most self-defeating thing anyone who believes in democracy could do, short only of voting for Trump.
If you'd like to keep voting at all, I'd suggest voting for the Democrats this time!
>Industrial strategy can accelerate growth and create good jobs, says TUC
A longtime conservative, alienated by Trumpism, tries to come to terms with life on the moderate edge of the Democratic Party.
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/14237802
> cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/14237801 > > > Archive link. > > > > A ridiculous number of the recent posts to this sub are me trying to convince conservatives not to vote for Trump.
Anyway, here are this guy’s reasons:
>[The] Republican relationship to truth and knowledge has gone to hell. MAGA is a fever swamp of lies, conspiracy theories, and scorn for expertise. The Blue World, in contrast, is a place more amenable to disagreement, debate, and the energetic pursuit of truth.
>I’ve come to appreciate the Democrats’ long-standing tradition of using a pragmatic imagination. I like being around people who know that it’s really hard to design policies that will help others but who have devoted their lives to doing it well […] Over the past four years, I’ve watched the Biden administration use pragmatic imagination to funnel money to parts of America that have long been left behind.
>Another set of qualities now drawing me toward the Democrats: patriotism and regular Americanness.
>But ultimately what’s pulling me away from the Republican Party and toward the Democrats is one final quality of Blue World: its greater ability to self-correct. Democrats, I’ve concluded, are better at scrutinizing, and conquering, their own shortcomings than Republicans are.
A longtime conservative, alienated by Trumpism, tries to come to terms with life on the moderate edge of the Democratic Party.
A ridiculous number of the recent posts to this sub are me trying to convince conservatives not to vote for Trump.
Anyway, here are this guy's reasons:
>[The] Republican relationship to truth and knowledge has gone to hell. MAGA is a fever swamp of lies, conspiracy theories, and scorn for expertise. The Blue World, in contrast, is a place more amenable to disagreement, debate, and the energetic pursuit of truth.
>I’ve come to appreciate the Democrats’ long-standing tradition of using a pragmatic imagination. I like being around people who know that it’s really hard to design policies that will help others but who have devoted their lives to doing it well [...] Over the past four years, I’ve watched the Biden administration use pragmatic imagination to funnel money to parts of America that have long been left behind.
>Another set of qualities now drawing me toward the Democrats: patriotism and regular Americanness.
>But ultimately what’s pulling me away from the Republican Party and toward the Democrats is one final quality of Blue World: its greater ability to self-correct. Democrats, I’ve concluded, are better at scrutinizing, and conquering, their own shortcomings than Republicans are.
I broadly agree with you that everyone who voted for Trump was in some sense wrong, but I don't think your framing is helpful. Even honest people with good motivations make mistakes and I think that some percentage of Trump voters was essentially mistaken when they voted for Trump (and if they're planning to vote for him again).
Specifically, I think the most common mistake they're making is believing that the ends justify the means.
Let's say a person holds some sort of conservative belief that's not in itself evil, like that taxes should generally be as low as possible, that any fiscal headroom should primarily be taken as an opportunity for a tax cut rather than for more state spending. There's nothing wrong per se with believing this (all tax policy is a matter of balance and there will always be some people who, on balance, think taxes should be lower). However, believing that this is so important that you should vote for a person like Trump is wrong: the ends (low taxes) don't justify the means (Trump regaining the presidency).
NB: The question as to whether low taxes are actually good, or of whether Trump will actually deliver them, is irrelevant to this argument; the whole point I'm making is that these people are mistaken, so if they're also mistaken about the merits of low taxes that's a point in favour of my argument, not against it. For what it's worth, Trump will raise taxes on all Americans because his tariff scheme is a tax that will be paid for by Americans.
Exclusive: Labour to promise more investment as PM tells Guardian he will not be distracted by ‘side winds’
The reelection of Donald Trump would mark the end of George Washington’s vision for the presidency—and the United States.
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/14148802
> I'm not a conservative myself, but I defy any conservative intending to vote for Donald Trump to read this comparison of Washington and Trump, and to honestly tell themselves afterwards that that they believe in America and its ideals.
The reelection of Donald Trump would mark the end of George Washington’s vision for the presidency—and the United States.
I'm not a conservative myself, but I defy any conservative intending to vote for Donald Trump to read this comparison of Washington and Trump, and to honestly tell themselves afterwards that that they believe in America and its ideals.
Improvements to workers’ rights to include day-one universal sick pay and an end to zero-hours contracts and fire and rehire
Former foreign and home secretary loses out in shock result in final round of MPs’ voting
Exclusive: chancellor’s plan to change rules to allow more borrowing comes as cost of government debt rises
I'm sure similar things have been shared here before because I saw this and thought it was possibly the most solar punk thing possible.
A 3D printer that:
- Is solar powered
- Is open source
- Can be run using FOSS
- Can use recycled plastic as its material
- Can print most of its own parts, including the solar panel components
“Nothing I have experienced prepared me for the very public and relentless implosion of my father’s life,” writes Caroline Giuliani, announcing her support for Kamala Harris.
“Nothing I have experienced prepared me for the very public and relentless implosion of my father’s life,” writes Caroline Giuliani, announcing her support for Kamala Harris.
Things did not go so well for these Main Line farmers.
Things did not go so well for these Main Line farmers.
The conference was a good opportunity to discuss how the Labour government can double the size of the co-op and mutual economy.
