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If you believe exploiting a conscious AI being would be immoral, please hear me out
  • I agree that veganism is about the animals, but why do we care about them? Is it not their consciousness that make them morally significant?

    I see no distinction between conscious beings, be them from this world of not, carbon-made or not.

    Btw I'm not trying to create AI-ganism or anything like that. My purpose with this post was to help non vegans that care about this problem make the same connection with the animals they exploit.

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    If you believe exploiting a conscious AI being would be immoral, please hear me out
  • It's not about feeling pain, is about their will to live.

    If the argument is only about pain/suffering, then 'ethical' meat becomes a thing and people would still ignore the being's will to live.

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  • First, let's define being conscious as at least having a mind that is aware and has a will.

    Maybe there's and argument if the being wishes to be used, but the argument I'm going to make is not about that.

    The following is said without judgement because it's something I've done for most of my life before noticing and taking action.

    If we recognize that a being (organic, silicon based or whatever) with a conscience should not be exploited and used against its will, there is no reason we should not apply the same principle to the animals we exploit and kill daily when we pay for their products. They should have a right to at least not be exploited.

    Please take that into consideration and know that you can take action to stop this injustice. Check out the sub for more info and feel free to ask anything in the comments or DM me.

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    Recent happenings
  • There's already a scaled sort, that will boost the ranking of communities you follow ;). I hated (not) seeing downvoted posts on vegan communities.

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    Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
  • We already depend on trusting instances for a lot of what's going on here, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to defederate untrusted ones.

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    Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
    1. Currently, any admin can modify any local user activity, can't they?
    2. Not really, your local instance may still hold the vote data for validation. And therefore could be ported and resigned.
    3. Don't see the problem.
    4. Today, each instance decides whomever they want federation with. The ones who decide the criteria should be the same ones who decide whom the instance federates with.
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    Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say
  • Your first comment expands on both privacy and security. There is no privacy without some type of security.

    Now to answer your questions: Yes and yes. Users from c/all were downvoting posts from a small community I'm a part of because they don't agree with. I couldn't see the posts from small communities that are important to me because of that. Now we have the possibility to sort by "scaled", which fixes that. Sometimes there are discussions that are very relevant as to who is voting for what. But that discussion has nothing to do with privacy, which was your first point and went unacknowledged on your second comment.

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    Lemmy devs are considering making all votes public - have your say
  • Not only admins can see the votes, but anyone on Fediverse (except regular Lemmy users) can see them.

    Security through obscurity is prone to failure when it is used by itself. If people want their votes to actually be private then another method of securing their privacy should be created.

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    Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
  • User choice would be best indeed. The problem is that currently the votes are public but hidden from Lemmy regular users. Anonymize votes seems to be such a big problem the devs don't even want to consider it.

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    Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
  • I completely agree with the idea of more accountability. We are real people in acting public right here, we should be constantly aware that our actions have consequences. If you don't want your pseudonym associated with a vote, don't do it. It's kinda like the opposite of 4chan, where instand of anonymous controversial content on top, here we have human-curated content being pushed up.

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    Lemmy votes ARE public, should they be anonymous?
  • What it the instance signs the activity? Then it propagates to others instances after local validation. That way only local admins would have access to voting data. Malicious instances could still be defederated/blocked/have votes disregarded.

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  • Currently, almost anyone in the Fediverse can see Lemmys votes. Lemmy admins can see votes, as well as mods. Only regular Lemmy users can't. Should the Lemmy devs create a way to make the votes anonymous?

    There is a discussion going on right now considering "making the Lemmy votes public" but I think that premisse is just wrong. The votes are public already, they're just hidden from Lemmy users. Anyone from a kbin/mbin/fedia instance can check out the votes if they are so inclined.

    The users right now may fall into a false sense of privacy when voting because the votes are hidden from Lemmy users. If you want to vote something and not show up on the vote list, please create another account to support that type of content and don't tell anyone.

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    Do non-vegans really refuse to date vegans?
  • I prefer to not talk about the direct topic of veganism on the first dates (unless I have to). Most people don't know what's veganism and are even scared of the word.

    I'd rather know the person first and see if our values align with other questions, like: 'do you think animals feel pain?' or 'what do you think about factory farming?'.

    But I gotta tell you, dating vegans is probably much easier. It will be easier to get a consensus on where to go for dinner, it will be easier to go shopping and you won't get invited to watch dog fighting and these kinds of stuff omnis do.

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    What is the easiest way to try all the DEs?
  • It would be best to try every single one separately, otherwise you'll have dozens of programs that do the exact same thing, like file explorers.

    That said, with Fedora you can list available desktop environments using the default package manager, dnf. In a terminal use the dnf group list command to list all available desktop environments:

    dnf group list --available *desktop

    Install the required desktop environment using the dnf install command. Ensure to prefix with the @ sign, for example:

    dnf install @kde-desktop-environment

    After trying the DE, you can remove it with:

    dnf remove @kde-desktop-environment

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  • I've been vegan for about 12 years (13 in January) after reading some discussions on Reddit about the theme, they hit me really hard after a beloved dog companion passed away.

    I make pb&j daily, since it's so easy and yummy. I often eat beans and rice, fried rice, the most varied curries and farofa!

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    If vegan food is supposed to be expensive or bland, I'm definitely doing something wrong

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    What can we do to prevent this? There aren't that many of us, and posts being hidden can really hinder our discussions.

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    www.eurekalert.org How a mere 12% of Americans eat half the nation’s beef, creating significant health and environmental impacts

    A Tulane University study found that 12% of Americans, mostly men or people aged 50-65, consume half of all beef on a given day, contributing to adverse health and environmental impacts. Educational programs targeting this group may help reduce consumption and address environmental concerns, as beef...

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    Libp2p or similar stack could be used to provide the phone instance an address, caching could be distributed among peers. Of course, as long as other servers also support libp2p.

    What would be the up/downsides?

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    With seitan, sausages, pão de alho, farofa, potato salad cones and chimichurri

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    I improvised a wood fired stove with bricks to achieve 'wok hei' (wok breath) and fortunately it worked! You can see the charring on the veggies and rice, it's really delicious

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    This was my second try at this dish. It's incredible how yummy the doubanjian and how fragrant the Sichuan peppers are.

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