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  • It's been 3 days now and Robin Hood is still at large. It makes me wonder what medical insurance plan the NYPD offers. Wouldn't it be a tragedy if the investigating officers were on UHC plans? Just tragic.....

    Also, ACAB. Just in case someone takes this as supporting police.

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    CEO of UnitedHealthcare fatally shot outside of NYC hotel, source says
  • Mostly. I think the mods just got tired and figured they could delete all the comments once the discussion dies down and people are less likely to notice.

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  • Naw, I have worked in EMS. Yeah, there are coping mechanisms that people might find distasteful. Dark humor and all that.

    You don't bring it up in conversation with strangers though. That isn't coping, that is reveling.

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    CEO of UnitedHealthcare fatally shot outside of NYC hotel, source says
  • Do you think jaywalking is as bad as being the CEO of a corporation that is responsible for the deaths of many many people?

    Also, you can be ticketed for jaywalking. Which is a bad thing happening. Which is the point. A bad thing happening to bad people is a philosophy our justice system is built on. We can certainly have a conversation about whether that is correct, but it definitely is the basic philosophy as it sits now.

    Frankly, I think the fact that CEOs that are responsible for so much death aren't being prosecuted is a bad thing. Feel free and disagree.

    But more to the point, I think that discussion shouldn't be shut down by the mods.

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  • Actually, that is a fair point. I didn't intend to misrepresent my statement. I mean, I still feel like the statement is valid and isn't the same thing as calling for violence. However, you are right.

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  • In this context in nearly is. It is a partial quote that is missing the context (the section it is in is generally talking about targeting other lemmy users and groups) and furthermore, they are using that overly broad one line to justify deleting a large amount of comments that "glorify" violence. Which is not in the TOS, including comments that don't talk about violence at all like:

    • Someone saying they would contribute to a legal defense fund

    • Someone mentioning an insanity plea or Jury nullification for a legal defense

    • Someone advocating for calling in to the tip line in protest

    I get the mods have a job to do, but they aren't doing it very well and are severely overreacting and over-interpreting a single line in the TOS.

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  • Mods just deleted another of my comments for saying

    "For America to get better, we need to be okay with bad things happening to bad people"

    I am not entirely sure how this statement is calling for violence. Or Glorifying it. Or is even controversial.

    The Mods here suck.

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  • "Celebrating violence" is not in the TOS. I get how one can move from the TOS "No call for violence" to a more practical "no celebrating violence". But no, no one here agreed to that in the TOS because that is not what is in the TOS.

    And honestly the section in the TOS which you guys keep quoting:

    1. Attacks on users or groups

    Before using the website, remember you will be interacting with actual, real people and communities. Lemmy.World is not a place for you to attack >other people or groups of people. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't give you the right to harass them. Discuss ideas and be critical of >principles. Show the respect you desire to receive.

    We do not tolerate threats of and calls for violence in any form against any living creature.

    Really seems to be there to protect the users of Lemmy from violence, which I support. Not the CEOS of Corporations. I mean, in the context of the paragraph it seems obvious you guys are overreacting to most of the deleted posts.

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  • using the same level of scrutiny, each one of these comments could justify a sentence in the ballpark of 38 months like what happened with Kay

    That is an assertion that I highly doubt and I while at first glance your comment seems well enough thought out, I actually don't see a lot to support the assertions made.

    governments that are getting progressively more authoritarian and trigger-happy the world over this is what i mean. the internet today is changing and social media admins need to change with the times or the hammer of the law can screw them.

    You are advocating for literally "Obeying in advance" to authoritarian regimes on a left leaning decentralized social media network.

    https://snyder.substack.com/p/obeying-in-advance

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  • A lot of comments in this thread are being deleted for "celebrating violence" and the mods are posting that it is against TOS. It really looks like the mods are hiding behind the TOS for some internal decisions they are making.

    I am looking over the TOS, and I don't actually see anything in it about celebrating violence.

    https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#content-policy-rules-for-users

    I commented to the mod about this and the post disappeared. Help me out lemmy people. Is there something in here that I am missing, or are the mods just deleting shit because the feels?

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  • It is interesting. Calls for violence are against the TOS. There is actually nothing in the TOS or the sidebar rules about "Celebrating Violence".

    I mean that is fine and all, and frankly it is a good policy. Just kinda bad form to be deleting so many posts for something that isn't in the TOS.

    Seems the mods have added additional interpretations to the TOS and then used that as justification to delete a whole lot of the conversation.

    Anyways. I like violent video games. Is that celebrating violence, how about football? Can I like football here?

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  • Yeah, the mods over there are killing like half the comments. I looked through the modlog, and most of the deleted comments are pretty tame. The mods over there are sucking right now.

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  • Every bad person in history had a family. I understand your point, I even admire your compassion. However, American insurance companies are EVIL. The people who run them are BAD. Maybe we shouldn't celebrate the death of bad people, but we should at least be able to acknowledge that for us to live in a better world, bad things need to happen to bad people.

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  • You know the worse thing is they can. They absolutely can pay out insurance claims AND profit.

    They don't because they wouldn't profit ENOUGH. Think about how much MORE evil that is.

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  • A CEO is a CEO. Just because they are accountable to the shareholders does not make them working class. The CEO is the closest thing a corporation has to a singular owner. Their compensation package includes shares (ownership) of the company and they are the ones who make the decisions.

    Literally their "job" is to be responsible for the actions of a corporation.

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