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I too eat bread, fellow peasant

Uh. Okay.

Honestly, it probably would've been used on troop concentrations rather than a city. The reason cities were chosen in Hiroshima and Nagasaki were because, absent an active invasion, there were no heavy troop concentrations of the sort that would have emerged as a front developed in an invasion of the Japanese home islands.

Also hotter than hell, especially in a Mediterranean climate! We think of Romans in the modern day as wearing togas, and Emperor Augustus certainly attempted to cultivate that with his characterization of Romans as the gens togata - 'toga-wearing people' - but it was a really inconvenient garment that was only worn for formal affairs, and even then only when making 'an appearance' was vital, such as by politicians.

Augustus tried to legislate that all upper-class men going out to the forum would have to wear the toga, but even this ran into trouble being enforced because it's just... not a convenient piece of clothing. XD

I scrolled back to see what the fuck you're talking about, and I'm still confused.

My past week French-posts were:

• Two goedendag posts. If you really want to count those, I guess we'll file that under 'anti-French'.
• An aside mention in the destruction of the Templar Knights
• "Everyone got their ass kicked by Vietnam; USA, France, Cambodia, and China"
• "Napoleon I took on all of Europe; Napoleon III couldn't even take on Mexico and Prussia"
• "Napoleon is one of the great strategists of all time"
• Medieval French Ghostbusters
• Medieval French Ninja Turtles
• "The Foreign Legion took on Nazi veterans after WW2" - if you want to count that as 'anti-French', uh, okay.

Mon dieu.

Essentially, there were three options going into the second half of 1945: invasion, blockade, or the atomic bombings.

Invasion and blockade both had projected casualties in the millions. So Truman made the decision to attempt to use the atomic bombs as a weapon of intimidation, dropping them and promising total destruction by the means of more such bombings if Japan did not surrender.

I will never defend the firebombings over Japan, which did nothing to hasten the end of the war. But the atomic bomb was a new and devastating weapon which Truman, and much of US high command who were aware of its existence, correctly surmised would convince the Japanese government of the futility of further resistance (combined with a bluff that we had as many as we needed).

Notably, even after the Soviet Union joined the war and both bombs had been dropped, a significant faction of the Japanese government wanted to keep fighting, even attempting a coup to continue the war. Only the direct intervention of Emperor Hirohito, a key figure in the State Shinto faith pushed by the Japanese Empire at the time, pushed the Japanese government to the negotiating table on terms less than "We keep our imperial conquests but say sowwy 😊"

That’s why I have you tagged as a racist.

... because I... prefer respect to Saladin over disrespect??

HE'S BLONDE! HE'S PISSED! HE'LL SEE YOU IN THE LISTS!

Funny enough, after the Crusades, the crossbow would become known as the 'Frankish Bow', and became popular as a cavalry weapon amongst Muslim polities, despite being a primarily infantry weapon amongst Christian Europeans - a small crossbow strapped to one's saddle can give a non-archer some range for skirmishing and responding to missiles!

https://www.museolarco.org/catalogo/ficha.php?id=9010

The knife reads "che la mia ferita sia mortale", "may my wound be mortal"

Explanation: The Boxer Rebellion in China was an uprising against the increasing European domination of the stagnant Qing Dynasty. Once the rebellion began - tacitly supported by the Qing Empress - it butchered a great number of innocent people, Europeans and Chinese alike, including some 30,000 Chinese Christians.

When the colonizing powers responded, they proved themselves to be no better, slaughtering and looting their way through the ancient capital of Beijing after defeating the Boxer forces.

This would be a key event in the downfall of the Qing Dynasty, having proven itself decidedly incompetent to both European interests and native Chinese interests, and siding with neither - a typical response from a calcified structure of aristocratic elites seeking to maintain their own position at the cost of everything else, but unsustainable in times of crisis.

Explanation: From wiki:

The Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and the Chronicle of Henry of Huntingdon has it that one of the Norwegians (possibly armed with a Dane Axe) blocked the narrow crossing and single-handedly held up the entire English army. The story is that this Viking alone cut down up to 40 Englishmen and was defeated only when an English soldier floated under the bridge and thrust his spear through the planks in the bridge, mortally wounding the warrior.[18][19] His name was not preserved in the aftermath of this battle.

This delay had allowed the bulk of the Norse army to form a shieldwall to face the English attack.

First, I trust the numerous first hand accounts of actual leaders of the time over this one historian acting like their memories aren’t great fifty years after the fact.

This may be shocking, but leaders often lie. Only Eisenhower's memory was impugned in that statement. Sorry that contemporary accounts don't back up their later politiking.

Second, the imminent Soviet invasion absolutely was a material factor.

Then why the fuck did you quote

Based on a detailed investigation of all the facts, and supported by the testimony of the surviving Japanese leaders involved, it is the Survey’s opinion that certainly prior to 31 December 1945, and in all probability prior to 1 November 1945, Japan would have surrendered even if the atomic bombs had not been dropped, even if Russia had not entered the war, and even if no invasion had been planned or contemplated. - US Government Strategic Bombing Survey, 1946

Ah. I checked your comment history. A campist bootlicker. I think we're done here.

Explanation: Many German-Americans, heavily influenced by the failed liberal and socialist Revolutions of 1848 (infighting was involved) and the exile community that sprung from it, were heavily abolitionist, and not at all a fan of the Confederacy's plan to secede in the name of slavery. One particularly celebrated exile from the Revolutions of 1848, Franz Sigel, was a Union general, and an astounding recruiting tool - many German immigrants were said (perhaps somewhat tongue in cheek) to speak not a lick of English, except enough to tell the recruiter - "I want to fight mit Sigel!"

“I’m just gonna peek over the walls real quick, it’s not like these Frankish weirdos have something like a handheld archery machine that can keep a bow drawn indefinitely while they wait for a target-”

Another myth that has attained wide attention is that at least several of Truman's top military advisers later informed him that using atomic bombs against Japan would be militarily unnecessary or immoral, or both. There is no persuasive evidence that any of them did so. None of the Joint Chiefs ever made such a claim, although one inventive author has tried to make it appear that Leahy did by braiding together several unrelated passages from the admiral's memoirs. Actually, two days after Hiroshima, Truman told aides that Leahy had 'said up to the last that it wouldn't go off.'

Neither MacArthur nor Nimitz ever communicated to Truman any change of mind about the need for invasion or expressed reservations about using the bombs. When first informed about their imminent use only days before Hiroshima, MacArthur responded with a lecture on the future of atomic warfare and even after Hiroshima strongly recommended that the invasion go forward. Nimitz, from whose jurisdiction the atomic strikes would be launched, was notified in early 1945. 'This sounds fine,' he told the courier, 'but this is only February. Can't we get one sooner?'

The best that can be said about Eisenhower's memory is that it had become flawed by the passage of time.

Notes made by one of Stimson's aides indicate that there was a discussion of atomic bombs, but there is no mention of any protest on Eisenhower's part.[74]

Even after both bombs had fallen and Russia entered the war, Japanese militants insisted on such lenient peace terms that moderates knew there was no sense even transmitting them to the United States. Hirohito had to intervene personally on two occasions during the next few days to induce hardliners to abandon their conditions. That they would have conceded defeat months earlier, before such calamities struck, is far-fetched to say the least.

The Strategic Bombing Survey outright ignored material that didn't fit their conclusion on the Pacific War, and I am aware of no serious trend in modern historical academia that regards the atomic bombings and the Soviet invasion and the impending American invasion to be immaterial in Japan's surrender.

Man, we utterly flattened Germany with a sustained campaign of strategic bombing, and seriously considered ethnically cleansing a good portion of the country after the war. If it seemed like Nazi Germany was going to hold out for another million Allied casualties, you bet your ass they would've had a can of sunshine opened on them.

https://blog.nationalmuseum.ch/en/2020/07/roman-glass/