Slyke @ slykethephoxenix @lemmy.ca

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In Australia, they have mobile speed cameras. Like they are inside of a special car they just park on the side of the road. No warning. Often placed at annoying spots, like the bottom of hills and stuff.

My first and only speeding ticket was going 45 in a 40 (normally 50) zone. Sun was in my eyes, they had a single construction sign up saying 40, with no other stuff around you'd expect in a construction zone.

I was going to contest it, but had already left for Canada by the time it came in the mail.

I think they were protesting that it was mandatory, when it shouldn't of had to of been mandatory in the first place, if I understand you? If so then yeah.

You're preaching to the quirky here. I'm just saying it's not so black and white, and that what we're seeing is the symptom of a larger issue.

Edit: lmao quirky. I'm gonna leave that autocorrect in cause it's hilarious.

My explanation is:

I agree that vaccines should be mandatory. I'm fully vaxxed on basically everything and even my dog gets their vaccinations. I trust in science and data.

That said, forcing people to do something they don't want to do is not good for social cohesion. A better way is meeting them where they are and educating them. This is not happening and instead we are belittling them, ostracizing them etc. This is why they are protesting, pushing back and being a problem, because they feel attacked.

It doesn't matter who is right because both think they are right.

Their arguments do have some merit, ie the government can't just decide for you to under go a procedure. We shouldn't just trust governments or scientists blindly or "it's for the greater good", that is basically the same as religion. They should instead be educated on why they can at least trust scientists and why scientists come to the conclusions they do, even if they aren't biologists themselves. And why the government makes the decisions it does. Like sure, YOU probably won't get sick, but when you're dealing with millions and millions of people, a single sub percentage point can make the difference between everyone getting through it, or the health system buckling under pressure and failing, letting hundreds of thousands die.

They dont think like that. They've never been taught to, and that's a failing of the education system.

Sure you will always have dissenters, but the point is to minimize them so they don't affect the outcome much by refusing treatment.

I hope that makes sense.

On the petition you linked:

There are no plans to amend UK consumer law on disabling video games. Those selling games must comply with existing requirements in consumer law and we will continue to monitor this issue.

Should make a Lemmy bot to do this automatically, lol.

Agree. Just copied the headline from the article.

Hey, I added Burnaby, Anmore, Squamish, Whistler, Niagara Falls and Niagara on the Lake.

https://lemmy.ca/c/Burnaby

https://lemmy.ca/c/Anmore

https://lemmy.ca/c/Squamish

https://lemmy.ca/c/Whistler

https://lemmy.ca/c/NiagaraFalls

https://lemmy.ca/c/NiagaraOnTheLake

Will moderate them, but looking for new mods who might live in these areas. I've lived either in or near them. And still visit.

Very displeasing.

Its not as absolute as it sounds. While vaccines do have externalities (eg: protection of others via herd immunity), so do the others I mentioned:

Refusing medical care can increase long-term public healthcare costs, especially in countries with socialized medicine, luke Canada

Eating garbage food or drinking excessively leads to chronic disease burdens (obesity, diabetes, liver disease), again impacting public systems and reducing workforce productivity. You could argue that this is mitigate through alcohol tax.

Abortion is more complicated, but opponents would argue there's another life at stake, so from their moral framework, it's not purely personal either.

The "freedom ends at someone else's face" is useful but oversimplified. The real challenge is defining when individual choices cross the line into collective consequences, and which ones merit state intervention. Vaccines are one of the clearest examples, yes, but they're not the only ones with spillover effects.

So my point is how do you define that line, legally? I think it needs to remain pragmatic. Societies change faster than laws do.

First line of the bitcoin whitepaper deals with this lol.

I agree. I'm from Australia, and vaccinations are mandatory and required, like you will be ordered by a court, and have your children removed if they are not vaccinated type of thing. I agree with this law.

I think people downvoting here are not understanding what I'm saying, or I didn't explain it well enough. I'm not saying anti vaxxers are right. I am saying they have some merit with their arguments, but ultimately they only think these ideas due to lack of education and critical thinking.

I agree with you, but that is not THEIR perspective. Many of them believe abortion IS murder.

I somewhat agree. But how do you make laws for forcing people to get vaccines, yet let them choose to have abortions, or refuse medical care, or eat garbage food, drink alcohol etc, for example?

Like, how would you define that on a societal level, and also have exceptions for situations the law doesnt account for?

These things dont exactly equate, but I can see why being forced by the government to get a vaccines irks some people. I think it all stems from them thinking that vaccines harm you, or cause autism or whatever. That and that we haven't had a truly deadly pandemic or disease going around in living memory (thanks again to science and our predecessors getting vaccinated) that would cause people to prefer the vaccine over say polio. People are losing fath in institutions and we are not educating our children with critical thinking enough.

Not sure where I stand on the vaccine thing.

I fully support science and think vaccines should be mandatory, especially during a global pandemic that we haven't seen in a hundred years. Or, for example, measle vaccines before exposing yourself to others during a measles outbreak.

I'm also for body autonomy with abortion and what medical care and what vaccines you receive.

It cuts both ways.

In the end I think the failing here is education. Not enforcement. IMO most reasonable people would take the vaccine. The only reason reasonable people don't is because they do not trust government or science, due to lack of education or understanding.

I love your username by the way.

Would you believe that's the whole ethos of the CanadaHousing2 subreddit, that it's the government's fault and they are taking advantage of immigrants and Canadians alike, but it gets labeled as a hate sub, lol.

Yeah. Immigrants aren't to blame here. It's government policy failure.

Yep. Was waiting for someone to mention that. Hardly any full times.

Money printing. See: Cantilion Effect