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sunarus said he didn't plan on doing so, for security reasons - see here for info

which on one hand is a shame, but i can see where he's coming from

I’m advocating about not to change defaults based on a propaganda term invented by Apple declaring all people who are not into inverted scrolling to be against nature.

it's not a propaganda term you muppet, i was using natural scrolling long before i heard the term. the reason i use that term is that to me, "inverted scrolling" is non-inverted it's normal; whereas "unnatural scrolling" feels weird and unnatural. also, again, natural scrolling is the same direction as a mousewheel; so if anything should be called "inverted scrolling" it's the one that goes the opposite direction to the established paradigm

OK, cool. Then just copy Windows in everything. Ship Edge and Candy Crush by default, put a huge Bing search bar in the middle of the desktop, ignore usability basics like Fitt’s Law and center the main panel leading to the “start button” move all the fucking time, add nag screens whenever users go off the path of Microsoft-set defaults, and basically take away all arguments for “I’m annoyed by Windows, I want to move somewhere else.” Greatest idea ever…

ok i didn't say kde should copy windows, i said that "natural scrolling is the most common behaviour". but if you're going to have a tantrum because somebody suggests a default (not even the only option, just a default) that you don't like, i can't be bothered to engage. try to read before you work yourself into a tizz next time

also for what it's worth, windows is much better in regards to fitts' law than any linux de i've used, including kde (edit: except possibly cinnamon)

well... no

the steam deck is not a laptop. the trackpads are used completely differently to a touchpad:

1. they're used with two different thumbs - left for scroll, right for cursor
2. thumbs have a completely different range of motion than fingers, making circular scrolling comfortable
3. [conjecture:] the circular scrolling was influenced by ipod click wheels, which are held in the same way as a deck, but differently to a laptop

please don't tell me you're advocating for two trackpads on laptops, and a swirly motion for scrolling

The most common behavior is now what Steam Deck does and it defaults to neither in Desktop Mode.

Yes, Windows has the biggest market share among Windows users.

windows has the biggest market share on pcs and laptops.[^1] the comment wasn't "kde should follow defaults from other linux distros", it was "kde should follow the most common behaviour. windows market share outnumbers macos + linux + chromeos + bsd + opensolaris etc.; and mac also does this by default to my knowledge

The biggest driver to get Plasma in the hands of users is currently Steam Deck and that throws both conventions out of the window and defaults to actual presses to click and circular movement to scroll down in Desktop Mode.

not really. i love my steam deck, but it is a niche product. valve are understandably being cagey about how many units have been sold, but steam deck <<< switch <<< computers. most plasma adopters will be coming from windows.

[^1]: if you want the biggest market share on devices in general, i believe it's android; which... also uses natural scrolling

this is the most common behaviour. windows has natural scrolling and tap to click / two finger tap to right click, and that's the biggest market share

you're not touching it when you use a scroll wheel either, and yet you drag the scroll wheel downwards

the argument for non-inverted scrolling isn't "you're not touching the content so it should run away from you", it's "you're dragging the viewport". you're not touching the viewport either

personally i find the content (an actual visible thing) being draggable more intuitive than the viewport (an abstract window)

ayy nice! it's really only panel icons that i care about

yeah, that looks much better

i think this is a bug with v0.18.4 - i know it wasn't happening and then suddenly it was, and i'm pretty sure it was right after the update

interesting, i'll join

instance agnostic link: !show_lemmy@lemmy.ml

man the conversion to webp really did a number on this one, didn't it

no worries, here's the actual documentation. apparently there's a third syntax that i never use as well

lemmy supports two footnote formats

the basic type like so:

    
comment body here[^1]

[^1]: and the footnote at the very bottom of the comment

  

or the easy to write type

    
comment body here^[and the inline footnote]

  

(note the different locations for the caret)

keep in mind that they don't work on most apps, and some frontends

i much prefer natural scrolling; but at the moment it just inverts the scrolling direction, meaning that you have to scroll down on the icon to raise the volume or brightness. i feel that's a thing that needs to be changed for it to be default

natural scrolling is intuitive because it's dragging the content as though it were a physical thing - but the volume is currently dragged down to go up

this is how kbin does it, i think

i must admit, i can often guess what the context is of a message, and if i reply i usually open the whole thread anyways

what would be really useful however, is something like this for dms. currently the best way is to show read, then go to the messages tab so you're not swamped. a threaded view of that would be great

i know. like i said, i don't believe it

^{i was just trying to be funny : (}

actually i almost went for sdf instead of l.ee. the reason i didn't was that it seems almost too good to be true? i see so many sites around that proclaim they're hosted on sdf, the biggest text on their homepage says "create a free account" and yet there isn't a donate button

i realise there's one on their lemmy instance, and i might choose them if l.ee does fold, but i felt like i was taking advantage of something meant for others

ah, but[^1] if you donate a kidney you go to the top of the queue

you're losing one when you don't need one, and receiving one when you do

insurance salesman here[^2], just in case that might have gibt unnoticed

[^1]: to the best of my knowledge

[^2]: obviously not

yeah you're right, but i'm not (just) being funny when i said that - lemmy.world had only just started when i joined (10 days), still had the old (much nicer) icon and no banner, etc. it had 188 users / month, compared to .ml's (at the time) 1.8k and lemm.ee's (current, according to the above infographic) 3.7k...

actually this is incredible how fast it grew

that's also a great idea, i'll see if i can find a way to cram that into µblock. thank you for the idea

edit: for anyone who wants to do a similar thing, here is the syntax for a µblock filter:

/(lemm.ee|mlmym.org)/##body a[href="/lemm.ee/u/Crul"]::after:style(content:"awesome";color:tomato !important;border:1px solid currentColor;border-radius:var(--bs-border-radius, 0.375rem);padding-inline:0.5ch;margin-left:0.5ch;)

(also i made it look a little prettier / more native)

i'll have a look at the mlmym github, see if there's anything simple i can do; i've never used docker, but perhaps i can figure it out

(also by the way your little doesn't work on the default ui, it makes a superscript underscore)