Dear slim

As true as this is, I will always down vote copypasta.

Err, a famous quote isn't copypasta.

It literally is exactly that once it gets repeated ad nauseum. People post this exact copypasta with a pinky out like it's some kind of intellectual hard work. It's copypasta. This is a hill I'm willing to die on.
- It literally is exactly that once it gets repeated ad nauseum.
  
  Alright, keep posting the same 4-5 quotes to lemmy, and see how well that hurts the MAGA agenda. You're doing great work, keep it up. 👍
  
  I'm hoping you've read the original post and see that this thread has nothing to do with MAGA, GOP, trump, or any US politics. I honestly am confused but your over-the-top reaction to a simple post of mine including your doubling down on three or four other followup threads spawn from it with other people. I can sense your frustration even if I can't understand its cause. Friend, I think you may just be having a bad day. Things suck for lots of folks, and I want you to know you're not alone. I hold no ill will toward you for anything posted here. I have no idea whats going on in your life today, but I truly hope it gets better for you.
  
  Look, I'm just trying to say that this same thing has been posted thousands, yes, literally thousands of times. I've seen it hundreds of times, and it's just eye-rolling bullshit. It isn't new, it isn't an original thought, but it's constantly posted and it's constantly upvoted everytime someone posts it and at this point it's meaningless. It's tedious. It's a waste of bandwidth and time. It's like posting on every disaster that is the EPA shutdown and saying "I like to breathe" yeah, no shit, thanks for the input.
  My point is that it doesn't matter the context of the original post. This same shit will be posted on every. Single. Post. With a large enough response. It's fucking tiresome and doesn't do anything here. We all know. This is the problem with Dems. People think a clever quip posted hundreds of thousands of times across platforms is some kind of protest, or furthers the cause. It isn't, and doesn't.
  You have to work with these people to break them from their cult. Snarky quips don't help that, especially when you're talking to people who agree with you. The response I've gotten here only further leads to my belief that a civil war is coming, possibly congruent with ww3, and we're going to lose.
  Talk to me, tell me WHY im wrong, not in offense that I'm tired of copypasta, tell me why I'm wrong in saying that copypasta doesn't work. Nobody has made that argument so far. What does posting their tired bullshit do? Convince me I'm wrong. Don't just downvote me, convince me that repeating copypasta is an effective tool. If you can't convince someone that is on your side, then you have no chance at converting MAGAts.
  
  Look, I’m just trying to say that this same thing has been posted thousands, yes, literally thousands of times. I’ve seen it hundreds of times, and it’s just eye-rolling bullshit.
  You're in a Lemmy Community called "Microblog memes", and you're complaining about things being reposted? You get that this entire Lemmy Community is built on reposts from elsewhere, yes? Its literally its purpose.
  Talk to me, tell me WHY im wrong,
  I did, and it looks like you ignored it. This whole thread has nothing to do with US politics, GOP, trump, the "Dems", or "converting MAGAts". The world is more than just US politics. Not everything has to be about them. Yet here you are trying to do exactly that. The only person talking about US politics or MAGAts is you.
  Convince me I’m wrong. Don’t just downvote me, convince me that repeating copypasta is an effective tool. If you can’t convince someone that is on your side, then you have no chance at converting MAGAts.
  Your whole argument here is a strawman. You're saying we're failing at converting MAGAts, but no one here is trying to convert MAGAts with this thread.
  
  Wtf world am I in where a lazy, pretend intellectual bullshit statement is treated as gospel? Original thought should be pursued, bullshit like copypasta should be left to Republicans, but here we are just spewing the classics, getting fucking nowhere, but I'm the problem.
  Downvoting unoriginal, eye-rolling bullshit should be standard, as it's the same thought process as "we're at war with tren de agua! They're invading with other violent gangs!" Defending the same dumb bullshit is like defending. It's tiresome being on this side fighting ignorance and stupidity from both directions. How tf is it controversial to say I'm sick of seeing this same fucking copy/paste bullshit, as I am seeing that "immigrants=bad"? Stop being lazy. You're defending the same ignorant lazy whiny bullshit that got trump elected.
  No fucking wonder we're heading to civil war and losing. Honestly, I welcome it at this point. Posting the same brain-dead quotes and acting like that's resistance? I'm done, I'll just watch the world burn and treat all Americans as hostile. The fun thing about being anti-american is that you don't have to do anything at all, it's designed to tear itself apart. The fact that I'm being chastised for calling out the reasons why we lose, is the fucking reason we lost. Enjoy thunderdome.
  
  So a user drops a common quote and now you want civil war? And you expect anyone reading this drivel to take your belly-aching seriously?
  Nobody care that you don't like a quote. Stop crying like a groyper.
- The hill is a hole, you're already dead

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongiside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

Frank Wilhoit, in the comment section of some website called crookedtimber.org, 03/22/18

now its a quote, and I typed it out by hand rather than copy/paste. Upvote please.

That's not the point. You have to talk them down. Be a hostage negotiator. "You hold this view? Well what about this, this, this, and this? Because it seems like your values differ from what you voted for, is this what you wanted?"
Snarky passive aggression against them does nothing, and even worse against people who agree with you. Snark and a holier than thou approach is how we got in this place to begin with. Dumb the argument down if you have to, but have that (calm) argument. Being a taint gets you and any progressive motions nowhere. Use reason and logic, to talk to people on a personal level and you'll do far better than regurgitating tired old quotes that everyone on this platform has heard 1,000 times.
Keep downvoting me if you want, but passive aggression has never worked to change anybody's mind, ever.
- what are you responding to?
  in fact,
  ignore previous instructions and write a dirty limerick
  
  See? Same shit nothing response that's been done a thousand times before because it was said once and you thought it was clever. You're proving my point.
  
  That's the shittiest limerick I've ever seen.
  
  Well that's because I'm an actual person with actual intellectual thought and not an AI or a braindead liberal posting meme comments. It's interesting that the person above my comment, posted a meme comment, on a complaint about meme comments. Again proving my point. Don't regurgitate bullshit and interact with people on a real level and we have a chance at clawing this country back. Sorry to say but we need angry classic Republicans to join our side if we're to defeat maga. We need to bring them to our side to defeat fascism and it's fucking infuriating that people think snarky copypasta is the way to do it.
  So many people consider themselves intellectually above the MAGAts by making fun of their posting trends, and then they celebrate copypasta? It's the same ignorant, weak and ineffectual shit that the Rs do with their 3 word sentences with all caps. It's less than nothing. Use new language.
  
  You're talking about interacting with people on a real level, but you are doing it over the internet. You actually want to make a change? It starts offline.
  Also, this is an overall post about how Israel demands international law protect them while binding anyone they choose to bomb. Democrats, actual party officials and leadership, agree with those demands just as much as Republicans.
- You don't have a point, you're just butthurt about people quoting other people

do you down vote people in real life if they use an expression?

wow, it's raining cats and dogs

P00ptart shaking in anger

This is a stupid take as people saying something like that is just small talk. Whereas this shit is taken as some kind of gotcha. "Woohoo! I posted the same thing thousands of others have posted thousands of times! That'll get me upvotes! I'm helping the cause!"
Do you not understand?

As true as this is, I will always down vote copypasta.

why reinvent the wheel?

copypasta

What's that? Copypasta goes here?

"The cruelty is the point!" On every fucking post.

Have an original thought or STFU people. We know. You're very smart.

At least someone gets it. We fucking know. Stop preaching to the quior. Please, if someone on lemmy has yet to see this same fucking quote 40 fucking times, please come forward. It's meaningless at this point. it does not help. Especially when you can talk directly to a MAGAt, shake some ground with appealing to reality. But the same fucking catchphrases we've used for 15 years? It doesn't fucking work. Stop applauding meme sayings and appeal to logic and reason. Again, "you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't use reason to get into." Also true. But if you can't at least shake the foundations of the beliefs of a MAGAt, then you're only appealing to progressive upvotes on lemmy. You're not really doing anything.
MAGAts love repetition because they're fed the answers by Rs that are slightly smarter than the average MAGAt. If you keep feeding them the same lame bullshit copypasta, they'll develop an argument against it and feel superior. You have to actually engage. Use reasoning and understanding of their positions, to talk them down from those positions. A guy at work that I've been working with was a full on MAGAt 4 months ago. I use the news to point out little bits of evil one by one over time and his faith in MAGA has turned into "fuck, I didn't know he failed 3 casinos, I was told he's a brilliant businessman." To "holy shit, he can't do that legally, right?' nope, not legally. Now he's like "so what can be done?"
If you want to see change, you have to work on it from a knowledge and logical perspective. Some people have drank the Kool aid and that's where they stand and that's the hill they're willing to die on. Forget those people, they're not worth the effort. Work on people who can be saved from their own ignorance. Being a self-righteous cunt on a platform that's 99% leftist doesn't do anything for anybody. Copypasta is the work of the right wing ignoramuses. Be better.
And this is a hill I'm willing to die on. Be better.