‘We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history

www.theguardian.com ‘We’re in 1938 now’: Putin’s war in Ukraine and lessons from history

Some analysts believe Kyiv is buying the west time on the precipice of a world war. Is it being used wisely?

Interesting article that talks about the similarities between now and 1938, and the sort of lessons we can learn from history.

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Given Putin’s unrivalled record of broken promises
That’s rich.
NATO Expansion: What Gorbachev Heard U.S. Secretary of State James Baker’s famous “not one inch eastward” assurance about NATO expansion in his meeting with Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on February 9, 1990, was part of a cascade of assurances about Soviet security given by Western leaders to Gorbachev and other Soviet officials throughout the process of German unification in 1990 and on into 1991, according to declassified U.S., Soviet, German, British and French documents posted today by the National Security Archive at George Washington University.
The Ukraine Mess That Nuland Made Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland engineered Ukraine’s regime change without weighing the likely consequences.
Former German Chancellor Merkel Admits that Minsk Peace Agreements Were Part of Scheme for Ukraine to Buy Time to Prepare for War With Russia
Zelensky admits he never intended to implement Minsk agreements
The West’s Sabotage of Peace in Ukraine In May of [2022] Ukrainian media reported that then-British prime minister Boris Johnson had flown to Kiev the previous month to pass on the message on behalf of the western empire that “Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with,” and that “even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not.”
- These all seem like very reputable sources. You can tell they're quality by how much time they spend attacking other news sources and by how strenuously they stress that "we're telling the truth" .
  
  Keep on consuming propaganda from Five Eyes governments, think tanks, and corporate media then, I guess. Stick with AFM- and MBFC-approved media, or else you might learn something.
  Noam Chomsky - The 5 Filters of the Mass Media Machine
  Propaganda model
  Edward Bernays
  Walter Lippmann
  Council on Foreign Relations
  Powell Memorandum
  The Trilateral Commission’s report, The Crisis of Democracy
  
  Being "contrarian" is not the same as "being true."
  
  I don’t know why you persist in framing things as “contrarian.”
  One could just as well say, “Being ‘conformist’ is not the same as ‘being true.’” Neither one is wrong, but neither is especially enlightening, either.
  Edit to add: And BTW, the links above about the media are not the least bit controversial or “contrarian”. It’s bog-standard stuff taught in schools of marketing, public relations, political science, history, and journalism.
- I feel all your saying is that you agree Putin does lie, but also so does the West... I'm glad we can agree Putin lies and that we should respond with that in mind as the author suggests.
- Bro Putin's whole thing is breaking promises

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