Leaders of 'Uncommitted' and 'Abandon Harris' movements reflect on Trump's victory and early moves
A combination of worry and cautious optimism about Trump — and deep anger at the Democratic Party — pervade the groups.
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Elaborate please.
This article was about deerborn residents who are Muslim, justifying voting for trump. So these people voted for the party who did things way worse than Democrats and that's utterly meaningless? Can't wait to hear the response.
Having your entire extended family disappeared over a period of a month is not significantly better than having them disappeared over a course of a day.
That isn't hyperbole.
I personally know 2 people that that happened too.
Expecting people to vote for the people that did that to them, and then getting mad at them when they don't vote is some of the stupidest "I don't have empathy and don't even want to try imagining myself in their position, even though I'm going to say I did." bullshit ever.
That isn't hyperbole.
Yes it is, it is an exaggerated claim that you have just said "trust me bro." That is as close as you can get to hyperbole.
Also, again this isn't your opportunity to grandstand about your vote not being earned, I'm sure it was a tough time for you, but I'm actually asking a question that has yet to be answered.
You know nothing about how I voted.
Stop assuming bullshit.
And no, it isn't hyperbole. It happened. If you know any Palestinians at all, and you bothered to show an ounce of human decency and asked them about it, you'd probably find out was true for you, too.
That's what happens in a fucking genocide.
If you had half a braincell you would realize that being argumentive and condescending will only drive people away from the Palestinian plight. Bringing up shit you cannot prove also really does not help your cause either.
Again I've made a point you have, yet again, failed to address, so like most lemmy users you find the opportunity to grandstand about your cause instead of having a discussion.
I mean look at your comments man, if the conversation gets even remotely close to that, you drive the conversation toward your own personal issues. I know you're hurting but you aren't helping your cause at all.
Again I want to point out, the points I made have no been addressed.
Elaborate please.
The vote-for-Biden-because-he-is slightly-better-than-trump-crowd forgot that voters have a third choice-- disengagement and apathy. Which is what happened isnt it. Reduced turnout from almost every single demographic.
Now the Dem brand is trashed, along with the western world order, the brand of democracy itself, and the brand of the united states. All so some incompetent idiots at the DNC could take some filthy AIPAC bribes to enable a far right wing religious genocide and other obvious war crimes.
Previous generations of dems understood that you dont win a campaign by just saying you are a centrist and stopping there. You at least pretend to be progressive during the camapign, because thats what the voters want. You need some carrot. All stick + cult of personality doesnt work. Its not exactly complicated. Canibalizing your base to reach for the mythical middle in republican territory has never turned out votes either. But the loss of the base is a sunk cost when you choose to roll that particular dice. We saw that play out as Harris lost support on a daily basis for the month leading up the election.
Thats not even taking into account that its just plain wrong, and causes people to lose trust in the Dem party. In the case of youth that trust might be permanently lost.
You have not addressed the points that were asked. All you did was a faux putin-esqe history lesson about the history of the Dems and what they did. I want to know why voting for a Republican is better than voting the the democrat. All you did was basically go on a separate rant about a separate issue.
Please try again and actually answer what is being asked.
I dont think you read or understood what I wrote.
We're using text as a medium, it generally requires elaboration. If you were actually interested in making a cognizant point, you would have done that by now.
