Wagner boss Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia
Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin killed in plane crash in Russia, with nine other people on board also dead
His plane has crashed and he's on the passenger list, but it's not proven yet that he was on the plane. He's the person, who faked his death in the past.
Hexbear and default lemmy libs coming together to laugh at prigozhin getting merced is so goddamn funny lmao.
Literally the no more brother wars meme
Gotta take a moment to appreciate the little things
Default lemmy libs are happy the leader of a war-crimes-for-hire org is dead.
Hexbear smoothbrains are happy that daddy Putin murdered a political rival.
We are not the same.
Hexbear smoothbrains are happy that daddy Putin murdered a political rival.
This nonsense is like screaming that Charles Dickens writes books about scifi robots in space. It just demonstrates that you've completely failed to do even the most basic level of effort to understand what the actual beliefs of anyone on Hexbear are. You just completely make up your own reality based on some cartoon you have in your head.
Like seriously, go and talk to people first before stating such wrong things so matter of factly.
Putin 🤝 Hexbear 🤝 Lemmy
Impressive Russia was able to push an entire plane out of a high rise window.
If only America knew about this trick before 9/11
It was Novichok-ing the tires…
Guess you could say the plane was denazified.
Why?
Putin's propaganda is that the invasion of Ukraine is to denazify Ukraine. Basically any of his violent action is justified by calling his enemies Nazis and referring to the Soviet war against Nazi Germany (same as when the USA call others terrorists). So if he shot the plane, it's because it had Nazis. Top comment may support this way of thinking.
I'm gonna sound like a fringe conspiracy theorist here, but you guys,,, What if this was no random accident? What if someone intentionally made the plane crash? But who? And why?
It was shot down by Russian air defense.
that's the joke
No... it can't be...
I've never seen tankies and libs ever so united in celebration.
It's as if leftists do not actually like Putin or any of the other ghouls on the Russian side, but are instead critical of NATO and willing to consider NATO opponents as rational actors instead of cartoon villains.
I oppose NATO over other Ghoulish countries because it's a greater threat to the world right now.
Russia is a country run by cartoon villains. Can you not picture Shoigu sneaking up behind someone with a large round bomb that says ACME on it, only to discover that the fuse has been accidentally lit by a soldiers cigarette?
I think most people of the left or right can see the situation for what it is. However Russia is obviously crafting messages to appeal to those on the extremes. When you see people on the hard left screeching about Ukrainian Nazis or advancing absurd peace deals then they've been gotten at. When you see people from the hard right screeching about Ukrainian immigrants or the cost of the war vs America / Europe first then you know they've been gotten at.
As for Prigozhin, I think most people, even Russians are glad that he is dead but for different reasons. Seems clear that Putin murdered him for his disloyalty but nobody in Ukraine is going to mourn his loss for the spent force that is Wagner.
No one likes mercenaries after all.
::: spoiler big emojis
"prigozhin got whacked lmao"
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honestly how could you be stupid enough to get on plane w/ that guy? this was the single most predictable event of the entire conflict.
I, uh, left my phone in the hotel... I'll catch the next one.
lol right
He's normally the guy Putin calls to shoot down aircraft.
There's chance none of them were alive when the plane took off.
The cool thing about plane crashes is that they make autopsies reeaally superficial.
The only thing I'll miss about him is his unhinged videos yelling at Shoigu and Gerasimov. Where else am I going to see billionaire completely lose his shit, yell at government officials, and then post that shit online?
He'll be remembered. Just not as a good guy.
In exchange, he gets to not be dead for a while.
Prigozhin should probably be careful touching doorknobs for a while regardless.
Does it count as calling it if I got the method of assassination wrong?
Don't think so in this case - we were all expecting him to be assassinated somehow, and the old 'sushi dinner with a nice cup of tea after' wasn't very likely. Should have had a sweepstake on his life expectancy - guessing 60 days would have been pretty impressive.
I'd say it counts for at least half-credit.
tiny dancer playing softly in the background . . .
He just died? Wow. I didn’t know that. You are telling me now for the first time. He led an amazing life. What else can you say. Whether you agreed or not, he was an amazing man who led an amazing life. I am actually sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that.
My bad guys, first day on the anti-aircraft guns
:Breen-disbelief:
I am shocked I tell you. Who could have predicted such an accident
"Plane crash" lol
They literally blew his nazi loving ass out of the sky.
Well the plane did crash against the missiles sent towards it.
lmao, you know he had to do it to him
Putin got tired of getting outranked by Prigo in the Chad-Cuck power ranking.
Little does he know this just immortalizes his rank
He's leading a Special Military Operation in the afterlife now.
I'm shocked they waited so long. RIPpin' this vape because you're dead lol
Sometimes in life, you just gotta go wherever your heart takes you, no matter how many people try to tell you it's a bad idea, and even if it doesn't make sense - especially when it doesn't make sense!
This was not one of those times.
Guy actually thought he was going to skate.
Wow. I Didn't Know That. You're Telling Me Now for the First Time
Seems like Putin may have held a grudge after all.
Wait, am I reading this right that the plane was shot down by russian air defence? If this is backed up at all by anything like a russian source, then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened (both are true but I thought the kremlin would at least try to say/show otherwise).
How does russia keep messing up this bad? I am constantly shocked and awed.
I don't understand the logic here. When the putsch occured and then ignomously fizzled out, I saw Putin as weak for letting Pringles walk out with a (relative) slap on the wrist. Taking Prigo out of the picture was overdue. Obviously, anyone would feel threatened by an semi-autonomous mercenary army, so removing its leadership and breaking it up is just a rational course of action that probably should have been done sooner from that POV
then this will just further enforce option that russia can not be trusted to do anything it says and that putin is weak and threatened
If they let him live, they're weak. If they kill him, they're weak.
During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.
The capitol riot was a threat to our precious democracy! / prigozhin’s coup attempt shows how weak putler is!
Nothing of value was lost tbh
lets hope the next leader is a communist and move on
Yo, they fucking Lin Bioa'd him for real
They Lin Blow'd his ass out of the sky
What a disappointing guy. The least he could have done was take out Putin before he died.
If Putin dies you're not getting someone nicer, you're getting someone significantly worse. Of the United Russia party he's pretty much a moderate force within the party compared to the alternatives. And there isn't any other party that would magically assume power if he died.
I mean, he did try a coup that failed miserably because he had no support. Even if he would have want to try to kill Putin, there’s no reason to believe he was capable of it
Never discount that a deal was reached and this was their way or his way of going in retirement with a new identity - faked death.
or putin could just kill him which would be a safer move on putins part
What about the others on the plane, crisis actors?
collateral damage.
The simplest explanation is usually the right one though.
Mr. Putin, meet Lieutenant Columbo, from the LAPD. He'd like to have a few words with you Sir. Just a few questions about this tragic accident involving an acquaintance of yours, a Mr. Prigozhin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyfywQ98dIU
Best reply ever
I'm fully expecting Russian media to explain how those evil Ukranians sneaked a missile battery or a fighter jet into Moscow airspace and shot down a plane that just happened to contained Putin's mortal enemies.
I think it's usually Ukrainian media making those spurious claims, like about that Russian prison that got hit or, idk, I think there was a pipeline or something that was blown up they instantly blamed on Russia
I think that was western media, when that one Russian pipeline blew up and they were all saying it was Russia who blew it up, like lmao why would they blow up their own infrastructure that was actively generating them revenue? It was very clearly blown up by either Ukraine or NATO to force the EU to use less Russian gas or whatever.
I've been following this on Russian- and English-language sites. Nobody but BBC alleged Russian responsibility, and they cited no evidence. Remember when Boris Johnson personally tanked peace negotiations?
A plane with a lost wing that looks to have been hit by a missile with photos of it falling from the sky and videos of the explosion as it hits the ground on Russian soil. Russia tanked peace negotiations when they didn't leave Ukraine.
There is more evidence about this than evidence of Putins butthole. I guess the only people who will really know are the salad flipping pro Russian propagandists.
Show us the evidence.
Dr Prigo, I'm FSB
Huh... you don't get to bring comrades
Looks like we found what the next step of Putin’s master plan was
That's a bit more dramatic than polonium. He was going to get got sooner or later after his tantrum/half-baked putsch.
Denazification is going well.
Rip to the goat
Warner Bros. or Wagner boss?
prigo: that's all, folks!
plane explodes
Whirlwind situation, for sure. Who'd be filling his position?
Wagner-linked Telegram channel Grey Zone
Is this related to The Grey Zone?
As far as I know no, it refers to a telegram channel operated by an ex-Wagner soldier. Unofficial Wagner news basically from what I gather. The Grey Zone aren't connected.
I always read it as Warner Bros...
Do I have to point out that this title is misleading? Don't get me wrong, I'd be glad if it were true... one less child killer roaming the world but if you read the article it hasn't been confirmed by western sources he was on that plane.
it hasn't been confirmed by western sources
it hasn't been confirmed by western sources
"I only believe news if it's made by white people and owned by a white billionaire"
LOL'd. And these people look at the rest of the world and say: "Brainwashed.".
The current article title now:
Wagner chief Yevgeny Prigozhin presumed dead after Russia plane crash
The article doesn't mention which agency is responsible for the murder of 10 people and what are the expected sentences for the murder
Good riddance, though a plane crash seems like a relatively easy way to "kill" someone while they go into hiding.
