The enlightened non-“Tankies” be like

You know "Fascist" actually means something and isn't just a synonym of "place I don't like"

Wow, westerner decides billions of Chinese people are simply wrong and confused. That's a very neat trick China is pulling on its population. The people must have no idea what socialism is despite living in China and receiving compulsory education in Marxism.

And as a further nefarious trick, China raised the living standard of the impoverished and working class to further cement the illusion. Every few years they execute a handful of rich people, who I assume are all paid actors. They're so dastardly!

They will be killed like its fucking 1984 if they spoke aganist thr goverment. Also there is clear resentment aganist Chinese goverment. Oh btw They killed millions of their owm people to "Raise living standarts"
- Also there is clear resentment aganist Chinese goverment.
  That's wild. You should tell them that.
  https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/
  
  I am mostly talking about the Educated Young people. Also i am pretty sure CCP tucked some money to them or straight up fabricated things.
  
  Provide evidence, not feels.
  
  Its a sensible guess due to past actions
  
  It's not though. It literally took me 1 minute to find a comprehensive multi-year survey disproving it.
  
  Can you provide a link?
  
  I literally did you illiterate dumbass.
  
  I thought you were mentioning an another article you idiot. Because the thing i just after the link you sended is not about the thing about the thing i mentioned after that
  
  Its only sensible if you take as fact China ebil, "inscrutable asiatics" no feedums
  
  sensible guess due to past actions
  Does this also apply to the US and it's cronies constantly lying out their ass about whatever government they want to coup this week?
  
  Did you not feel even the slightest pang of embarrassment when writing this?
  
  Hmm my previous false assumptions prove my future false assumptions true, which can be verified because they match!
  
  You're mostly talking about your fucking imagination.
  
  western educated, rich young people are stupid liberals for the most part
- Just like 1984 Animal Farm!
  
  Why so much censorship then?
  
  Censoring imperialists is good
- Only party members in 1984 are killed or taken to room 101, who are supposed to be around 20% of the population. The rest of the population is kept brainwashed through things like purposeful illiteracy and an alcoholic beverage called "victory gin" (suggested by the text to cause long term brain damage). The average person in 1984 isn't supervised or threatened with death at all. The most supervised class are "outer party" members, educated bureaucrats and skilled workers, of which the protagonist Winston belongs. The "inner party" is the one that does the supervising. The way the Ingsoc government in 1984 controls the average Prole (proletariat) is through minimizing the use of language as well, through newspeak. The "double plus ungood" type of talk. There's a brief mention of the inner party trying to make anti-government phrases impossible or grammatically incorrect, since the phrase "BB is double plus ungood" would be technically possible, they want to make it a grammatical mistake.
  I've read this book too many times and I still hate it.
  Also, every study I've seen, external or internal, shows a near 90% approval rating for the Chinese government. By any metric the Chinese people largely approve of their government. There's no widespread insurgency. There aren't widespread movements to overthrow the state and replace it with liberalism. There are regional protests against certain policies mostly.
- America killed a million + people in America in the name of getting treats during a pandemic
- LiTeRaLlY 1984?!?!

Fascism is when you exempt all minorities from population control measures targeted at the most numerous ethnic group. The more children minorities have, the more fascister it is.

China is commiting genocide aganist Uyghur People
- Damn the Uighur bros I just had dinner with are going to be so fucking surprised when I tell them they're being genocided.
  
  There is footage of it. Why you are refusing?
  
  Oh fuck there's footage of Uighurs getting genocided? Can you share this information with us and eventually the UN?
  
  Just search Uighur Genocide footage on fucking youtube
  
  You're making a claim that there is footage of a genocide happening, support it.
  
  You can do it yourself by just doing wtf i told you
  
  You can do it yourself by just doing wtf i told you
  How liberals form their worldview: Unquestionably doing what they're told by whoever
  edit: actually not even doing what they're told, just believing in the implied outcome
  
  I'm telling you to post it, and you can shut us all up right now by just doing wtf I told you
  
  I have, there was nothing. Turns out you were just lying, hence why you wouldn't produce it yourself.
  
  search it yourself if it's so easy and link it to us
  
  Please show me which one. I really want to talk this through with you.
  
  It's not our job to back up your argument. Link it directly.
  
  Oh good, footage. Please do share, I've been wondering why nobody can show me video of this mass genocide despite everyone carrying a camera in their pocket these days.
  
  Just fucking search it on youtube. Also Free Tibet
  
  Search "white genocide" youtube and you'll get a bajillion videos about it (don't do this) does that mean it's real?
  Also, I have some great news for you, Tibet became free! Before, it had a theocratic regime with serfs and a caste system with "untouchables" and an average life expectancy of 35, but now that's all in the past!
  
  They fucking annexed them forcefully. I am not defending past goverments actions but i dont think a forceful annexation was the answer
  
  Tibet was not recognized by a single country other than Mongolia. It emerged with countless warlord states during the political upheval of early 20th century China. The Nationalists also considered it part of China and to this day Taiwan claims ownership of Tibet, considering it part of Chinese territory.
  
  Hmm. Fair Enough
  
  "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, the accused is clearly guilty based off of video evidence of their crimes which you can search for on YouTube.
  Also, Free Tibet."
  
  There is satelite footage and Independent footage of indoctrination camps in East Turkistan. Also noticed you are from hexbear so i realized i am working here for nothing
  
  There are a lot of prisons in the USA too. Does that mean it's commiting genocide?
  You need an update, the natsec apparatus has backed off the genocide claims, as the evidence to the contrary was overwhelming.
  They claim there was mistreatment, but admit China is not trying to wipe out their uyghur population.
  
  I do not support US either. China is sinofying uyghur people
  
  There was "satellite footage" of WMDs in Iraq.
  Also lol at "East Turkistan"
  
  East Turkistan is the rightfull name of that place. Uighur are turkic people
  
  literally google maps images of schools
  
  Mao already did free Tibet
  
  Don't you mean ”let the pedo Dalai Lama have his slaves back?”
  
  Mao already did 70 years ago :mao-clap:
  
  Produce this footage.
  
  lmao do you mean that one screenshot of a normal prison and people sitting in a yard, or do you mean that one taiwanese BDSM video? You people have 2 pieces of "evidence"
- https://www.ohchr.org/sites/default/files/documents/countries/2022-08-31/22-08-31-final-assesment.pdf
  Read the fucking UN report already and stop repeating bullshit that has already been debunked.

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We've all heard the lib propaganda. Many of us believed it at one time. We don't support them because of the misinformation in your propaganda. We support them because of the actual truth about those states

Why China is super nationalistic? Why there is an entire fucking genocide aganist uighur? Why China has Megacorporations despite being "Socialist". Why there is so much censorship and Propaganda? Also in DPRK people are eating fucking grass
- Also in DPRK people are eating fucking grass
  And they have to push the trains by hand! Wild how they're not experiencing any kind of population collapse after supposedly decades of these conditions! Maybe I should start eating grass!
  
  In the DPRK, people are expected to flap their arms very quickly in order to fly planes that have no gas
- Again, most of what you're saying is untrue and the rest there are answers for. We already know every xenophobic anticommunist thing you're saying because many of us grew up being taught to believe those things. They're untrue. Feel free to froth at the mouth about it like you've been trained to
- Why China is super nationalistic?
  How did you determine that China is 'super nationalistic'? How do you even measure that relative to other countries?
  Why there is an entire fucking genocide aganist uighur?
  How did you determine that? Because the UN hasn't been able too.
  Why China has Megacorporations despite being "Socialist".
  Because they're in the transitional phase.
  Why there is so much censorship and Propaganda?
  Compared to what?
  Also in DPRK people are eating fucking grass
  How did you determine this?

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Two questions:

How do you define fascism?
How does that definition apply to China and the DPRK?

They are both ultra nationalist. There is a Super clear class divide in these two countries. Goverment is super controlling. China is commiting genocide aganist Uyghur people.
- They are both ultra nationalist.
  Like every country
  There is a Super clear class divide in these two countries.
  Like every country, often more so than China
  Goverment is super controlling.
  Like every country
  China is commiting genocide aganist Uyghur people.
  And Iraq has WMDs, yeah, we've heard it before. Though I'm not sure what your point is even if it were true; non-fascist countries commit genocide all the time.
  It seems like your trying to make the definition of fascism so broad as to be useless, which only helps actual fascists; like you.

I am once again asking liberals to learn that fascism isn't just a synonym for "something I don't like"