[article] Montreal becomes largest North American city to eliminate mandatory minimum parking spots
[article] Montreal becomes largest North American city to eliminate mandatory minimum parking spots
Montreal is the latest city to eliminate mandatory parking minimums, and the largest North American city to have done so.
I'd never heard of mandatory minimum parking until now. That sounds horrendous.
45It's a thing virtually everywhere in NA, and usually is set to the maximum expected demand for parking. Which means malls and big stores need enough parking spaces to accomodate Black Friday levels of traffic.
30Land area wise most malls/shopping centers in the USA are about 50% parking lot. It's absurd. I regularly hear people mention a store/location and then the praise/complaints about the parking there.
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Hey, that's my favorite System of a Down lyric!
All research and successful health policies show
That walking should be increased
And law enforcement decreased while abolishing
Mandatory minimum parking spots
I buy my crack, I smack my bitch
Right here in Hollywood
26I just love that the "law enforcement decreased" line didn't change.
It's just always applicable.
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Several new major developments in my area have done this. They have underground parking for residents and businesses only and for everyone else you get 5 slots of street parking and nothing else.
The problem is that public transit in my city is horrible. It is expensive, unreliable, slow, and has poor service coverage. These developments are 100% completely inaccessible to me both by car and by transit unless I'm willing to blow away the next 4 hours busing there and back for what would be a 10 minute car ride.
Cars are a cancer on the world and I hate them as much as anyone else here, but cities must give proper alternatives if plans like this are to work properly. Slow, stinky buses that only come every 50 minutes and spend 80% of their time stuck in traffic help nobody and yet they are all our politicians are willing to provide.
17Taking away the parking is how you get alternatives. They won't ever happen until the public is properly motivated to support them.
17Yup. Perfect is the enemy of good. If you wait for everything to be just right, nothing ever happens.
8Taking away parking must be done while also providing alternatives, or you just have a bunch of homes and businesses that are inaccessible. This is especially the case if you want to integrate something like rail/tram access which has to have infrastructure considerations before construction even begins.
"Build now, "fix" later" is exactly how we ended up in the situation we're in now where they just keep throwing more and more buses at the problem.
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There's parking In Montreal?
I suppose that's what potholes are for...
12It's the entrances to the new montreal wide underground parking to be started between now and years 2100 but the orange cone will be there from now till it's finish in 2573
10The potholes are our patented traffic calming technology.
2Lol, nice
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Not over my dead Anglo Saxon body, fuxking filthy communist!
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12These are rookie numbers!
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"fucking" for fucks sake.
2X is next to C... Auto correct won't do me a solid here... I wonder why
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All this will lead to is more privately owned parking areas opening up
-15It means a lot more small scale housing and businesses will be allowed to operate. Most parking minimums specify your parking lot can accommodate something like “maximum capacity +20%” which is just absurd. I’ve never seen a full Walmart parking lot in my life, let alone the 30 spaces at most banks and 50 spaces at most pharmacies. Land is valuable, and this removes a big roadblock for reasonable construction.
26If that drives up demand for more mass transit infrastructure, that isn't necessarily a bad thing.
8You've clearly never lived in Montréal. We have had a massive decrease in private lots over the years, massive expansion of bike lanes, expansion of car share programs, and newly built train lines. Every year we are less and less dependent on cars and the city has only gotten better from things like this.
6😂😂😂
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Good, hopefully with a significant cost so it encourages people to use public and active transport. Free parking isn't free since society bears a significant cost to provide it.
5yeah im not sure how I feel on this. I have known folks who will drive their ice car around and around a block to access free parking. I want more cars parked and not running than running. Especially if self driving cars become a true thing. If its cheaper folks will totally have their cars drive back home and then a few hours later drive to pick them up and double their energy usage and exhaust.
-4The problem is tons of free parking everywhere needlessly sprawls out our cities, makes people drive further, and makes actual green methods of transit (like walking, cycling, and electrified public transit) less viable.
In the long term, maintaining car dependency is fundamentally incompatible with addressing the climate crisis. Removing mandatory parking minimums is a necessary step towards ending car dependency.
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