Many guns seized at Coutts border blockade are used for hunting: defence
Many guns seized at Coutts border blockade are used for hunting: defence
A defence lawyer for one of two men accused of conspiracy to commit murder at the border blockade at Coutts has suggested many of the guns seized are rifles used for hunting.
Remember that these are the guys who said that they were preparing to fight UN and/or Chinese troops who might invade Canada?
Now their lawyer says that they were used for hunting? Was she taking about the pipe bomb or the handguns?
I don't see a single trigger or cable lock in that photo. Was the ammunition stored in a separate locked container?
These guys should never be allowed to own a firearm again based solely on the UN/China delusion. These types of violent collective fantasies are extremely dangerous and they absolutely should be disqualifying.
All guns seized from this blockade were also being used to disrupt international trade.
24Who doesn't wear plate armor to hunt small game?
23You never know when those weaselly wabbits are gonna fire back.
10I know I do.
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I'd call 4 of 15 weapons displayed as some, not many. What dickfuckery is this?
But sure, next election, vote for the guy who supported and continues to endorse these neo-nazi pukes. Yeah, vote for the career politician who has never had a real job, never done his own taxes, never experienced need or hunger. He's your guy, he understands you. He knows you're a stooge who'll swallow his bullshit.
Then, when he comes after YOU, I won't say a word 'cause he'll have already silenced me.
15What choices do we have. That’s the problem
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What the guns might have been used for prior to the blockade, or when not present at the blockade, is not relevant. You can commit murder just as easily with a hunting rifle as with a handgun. It's just more difficult to carry the rifle concealed.
11Exactly. These could have been hunting rifles, and used for hunting 100 times. Take them to a blockade and they become weapons.
6Hunting rifles are much, much easier to commit murder from afar with. They're high powered, they're scoped, and they're made to kill animals much larger than a person. That doesn't mean they should be banned. I can kill someone with a pencil too, but they'll still let me bring one into the courthouse.
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Hunting with a Kriss Vector is... a choice.
9This whole table just looks like the Modern Warfare 2 load out selection.
9It does make one wonder why, when the police lay out the range of firearms that a bunch of Gravy Seal terrorists bring to the beginning of their war against the government, it is never a table of Smith and Wesson oak stocked hunting rifles. It's because they watch too many movies made in the US and play too many shoot-em-up video games and want to play soldier. THAT is the reason that this type of firearm is being banned. It's not because of how they look but because of the type of people who want to own them and why they want to own them. I have absolutely zero concern that the government is ever going to come for my guns because I didn't buy them to feed into my part of the collective murder fantasies of the anti-government nutjobs.
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Why am I not surprised that these terrible people could only obtain counsel from an equally terrible attorney?
5If these were seized from vehicles, neither of those considerations are relevant. You don't need a firearm lock or locked ammo box in a vehicle. The firearm just can't be loaded when in the vehicle.
2What are the rules for the handgun and pipe bomb?
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It does say hunting/defense. Some of those are self-defense weapons, and some are hunting weapons. It's not difficult to see which is which.
1If you think you need a gun for self-defense in Canada you shouldn't have a gun. You're more likely to choke to death on a hotdog, to drown in your own bathtub, to die from entanglement in your own bedsheets, from being stung by a bee, or by being trampled by a cow than you are to be killed with a gun by someone you don't know if you're not involved in the drug trade or organized crime. In fact, you're FAR more likely to be killed by or to kill someone you love if you have a gun than you are to be killed by a stranger.
4In fact, you're FAR more likely to be killed by or to kill someone you love if you have a gun than you are to be killed by a stranger.
I'm pretty sure that's the case everywhere that has guns. Statistically, there's way more occurrences where there's a potential for death with people you're around all the time. Plus, there are a lot of boneheaded people in the world.
But to your original point, a burglar, or intruder, or stalker, or whatever, doesn't need to have a gun to make it a good idea for you to have a gun. Why would you want to meet someone who's invading your house on equal footing? The idea is to have overwhelming odds on your side so that you can come out of the situation unscathed. Nobody's going to see an intruder with a knife and go "oops, he only has a knife, so I better put my baseball bat down and grab my pocket knife!". That's just silly movie machismo stuff. You want as much advantage as you can get.
It's highly unlikely that most people will ever encounter any scenario like that. That's true. But that doesn't make it a bad idea to be prepared. As unlikely as it is, I know someone who suffered a home invasion in her 2nd floor apartment in a gated community, in the nice part of town. The burglars climbed her balcony, and threw her BBQ through the sliding glass door while she was sitting on the couch. Then they forced her onto the ground and made her sit cross-legged with her face between her knees while they stole everything of value that she owned. Would a gun have helped her? Maybe not. Idk. But the point of owning a gun for self defense, or home defense, or whatever, is to be prepared for the times when it would help you. Not everyone who owns a gun is a crazy gun person who makes it their whole identity. Some people just want to be prepared, and some people just enjoy the sport of marksmanship.
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I know that there are more absurdities that prove your point. However, a handgun can be a great addition to hunting
-15Ok, ignoring the fact that handguns are illegal in Canada...how is a handgun a great addition to hunting? Not being sarcastic, genuinely curious.
3Handguns are not illegal in Canada. I’ve got 3 all properly licensed and stored in a safe.
You can’t use them for hunting, but that’s not what you said.
Trappers and other wilderness types can apply for a license to carry them for self defence from predators while in the wild from what I recall, but you need to actually get the license not just decide to tote it around, which is very much how it should be.
I own firearms but appreciate the Canadian training and regulations. The way it should be, at least before liberal fuckery with gun legislation to get cheap votes and not actually fix the problem.
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