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Secret Service agents rushed former President Donald Trump off the stage after he fell to the ground at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
Loud bangs were heard before Trump fell. Agents then helped him stand, and he had blood on his face. He was yelling back to the crowd and raised his fist. He was then taken to a vehicle and evacuated from the scene.
If he dies of natural causes, half the conspiracies will be that he isn't dead or he reincarnated, and the other half will be that he was killed by Biden or trans antifa pedo activists
I want the man rejected by the country and defeated at the ballot box, not turned into a martyr that’ll inspire another generation of MTGs, Boberts, and DeSantises.
Funny CNN is reporting he collapsed and other outlets are reporting gunshots.
I'm far more concerned about Trump's edging of violent white supremacy groups that have repeatedly threatened violence if they don't get their way, makes me think of it was Biden probably some magat shooting because they're dumb as a sack of uneducated incestuous rocks. Since this is Trump I'm inclined to believe he actually fell and they're playing it off that it was gunshots to hide the fact Trump is unstable mentally and physically.
Nothing that shitbag does has ever been honest. I would put it past him to have staged this shit. His could have had something in his hand to make his ear look bloody.
And there’s no way anyone will be allowed to investigate this.
I didn’t know what was happening when I posted it, seems like he could have collapsed from exhaustion. I saw the news just as it was coming out, no one had mentioned gun shots then
I was skeptical but in the photos there's no injury to the side of his head. Just seems incredibly unlikely that a bullet would clip his ear and hit nothing else whatsoever. So yeah, an injury falling does seem kinda likely.
That was my first thought, hit up that 'other' site and saw a video on /r/interstingasfuck and it looks like he grabbed his ear immediately after first two(?) shots so I think he was actually grazed.
He didn't "collapse" or "fall". He reached for his ear (where he was hit) and had a general "WTF is going on" face, then after a few seconds, ducked behind the podium as secret service yelled at him to get down.
He seemed able to walk away on his own, although it is hard to tell exactly since his human shields might have been supporting him. As he was leaving, he was well enough to project an image of good spirits and raise a fist, seemingly getting into a bit of a fight with his secret service, who seemed to want him to stay small and hidden behind them.
Trump after a shooting in Iowa that left one sixth-grader dead and six other staffers and students injured,
"So surprising to see it here. But, we have to get over it. We have to move forward..."
how were the secret service not on the roofs or monitoring the roofs from aerial POV? Most obvious spot for a sniper.
the dude interviewed by British journalist right after that says him and group saw man with gun climbing roof, told cops and secret service and neither did anything
his first and only focus was his shoes?
a man who is a documented coward and narcissist pushed against secret service to face cameras and have his head exposed for a long period of time?
secret service ignores protocol to cover and remove him and let's him vamp and pose
straight lines of blood on his face, history with pro wrestling
yes, the supposed gunman was killed, but on what day are there not thousands of trump cultists lined up and ready to die if someone tells them they are on a secret mission to help daddy?
yes, some in crowd may have been injured, but when has trump shown any hesitation to have pale injured or killed for his personal benefit (January 6th, church protests, etc).
his secret service were proven corrupt and involved in cover up measures for trump before (e.g. Deliberately erasing text messages relevant to January 6th)
this all happens as project 2025 narrative was taking form hold, leaked video/audio by the day and days before the RNC.
watch the footage, down the stairs, secret service is concerned with grabbing and carrying his special red hat? How the fuck would that ever be a concern in an actual emergency?
Sure, but you can NOT be confident that quickly that you've completely contained the threat and there weren't multiple bad actors still out in crowd (unless you actually had some knowledge that they weren't out there).
You especially can't have that immediate confidence if your "perimeter locked by experts" was just wholly violated in the most fundamental way. I'm pointing ought a series of objective facts about this moment for consideration. I'm not talking about chem trails or aliens. You can consider this for what it is and leave it at that.
This man is a compulsive liar, convicted felon and acts constantly in bad faith to preserve himself and stay out of prison. His only path to that now is the presidency and I wouldn't put it past him, of all people, (and more likely the fascist think tanks and professional "rat fuckers" that surround him) to stage this play and hurt potentially innocent people to his own perceived personal benefit (like him and this same group did on January 6th without hesitation or remorse).
You're on autopilot (assuming as a generally decent person) with the "must dismiss as conspiracy thing" and, you're not considering the specific man. This is David Pecker's business partner, he's literally in bed with the conspiracy printers for decades, they have the actual analytics to know what sells here and he's literally Epstein's best buddy... This is a convicted felon, rapist and seditionist. You need to pause and apply thinking to this specific scoundrel and hear him telling you who exactly he is for all these years with consistent dishonest and immoral actions.
I'm by no means 100% convinced, but this is who would do it and how they would do it if it were staged. Biggest downfall here really is trump's vanity and not selling the abject terror that everyone knows he would have had, as a documented coward, if this were a real live threat. If he had maybe cried, or crawled, curled up in a ball, pissed himself, yelped, "save me now!" to the agents around him or grab a woman/child in the crowd to use as a human shield... THAT would have been the trump we know him to be in crisis, not fist pumping in front of the American flag donny - his sense of self preservation is just way too developed to do that if he wasn't sure of what was happening in that moment.
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.
Not denying the incident was reported, but there's a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so... They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
"Supposed" gunman. I like how you pivot from "this is probably set up" to "ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse"
Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We're going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate... No one heard the plan and thought "oh this is a bad idea" and spoke out about it?
Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There's always a convenient time.
Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn't have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That's ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter's location and took him down before Trump even got up.
There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.
This is the dumbest shit and we need to fucking grow up a bit. These "questions" are asinine and not that hard to explain.
Not denying the incident was reported, but there's a heavy insinuation here that this was set up or manufactured. If so... They needed an entire Secret Service detail, local event police and everyone standing by to be in on it. A couple hundred people are going to be involved and no one leaks it?
"Supposed" gunman. I like how you pivot from "this is probably set up" to "ok even if it was real Trump is capable of worse"
Again, the insinuation of an inside job here. We're going to involve a hundred or more people and no one thought it would be a problem to kill a bystander? Or the gunman was so good he killed a specific plant? And they had a 100% success rate... No one heard the plan and thought "oh this is a bad idea" and spoke out about it?
Big difference between deleting text messages and MURDERING AN AMERICAN to further a political agenda.
Yes. Things happen all the time. Trump people are saying this is to distract from Biden being inept. There's always a convenient time.
Yes you dumbshit he was concerned about his hat because they already had the all clear. The shooter got taken out in seconds. They wouldn't have moved Trump. And they all were saying it was all clear. Also have you ever seen people in an absolute panic? Not the most rational state. Same thing with his shoes. That's ALSO why he took the photo op. They all dove on top of him. They figured out the shooter's location and took him down before Trump even got up.
There's pictures of the fucking bullet in flight. So either that was ALSO manufactured (a member of the press willingly heard the plan ahead of time and doctored a photo or they actually shot a bullet inches away from Trumps head AND captured it). But no let's just get Trump, a bumbly ass fuck to orchestrate this perfectly. I'm sure he had it a planned to go down, and everyone covered him and he pulled out a razor blade, cut his ear, and put it away, all perfectly executed and no one caught anything on camera from any of the dozens of angles.
This shit is so fucking stupid and I'm so sick of hearing about it. These points all rely on the most ass backwards way of thinking where dozens of people are in on this conspiracy and relies on all of them bring cool with killing someone to make it good for Trump.
Get this shit outta here. This doesn't deserve the pixels on the screen used to illuminate this nonsense. Be a fucking grown up. We're going to have to figure out a real way to beat Trump, not pretend this was some false flag bullshit. Accept reality. Be a goddamn adult.
I'm not even saying you're wrong for questioning, but I am saying you are wrong because the sheer volume of things that would need to occur for this theory to be even remotely possible is so ridiculous, I would consider aliens an equally plausible situation.