Zelensky, in UN showdown, says strip ‘criminal’ Russia of veto power
https:// ptv-news.com.pk /zelensky-in-un-showdown-says-strip-criminal-russia-veto-power Zelensky, in UN showdown, says strip ‘criminal’ Russia of veto power
here's a compromise, we get rid of all the vetos, and let the general assembly make binding decisions. surely the majority of the world's population & nations would vote in support of Western Democratic interests
60Nice. The !alwaysthesamemap@lemmygrad.ml countries would be none too pleased about this.
30Attempting to create a Supra National World Government like this would cause most, if not all, of the industrialized nations to immediately leave. Even China would pack up its office and walk out the door.
5Correct no one wants to cede sovereignty to the UN
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It's all about nuclear power. All nations in the Security Council have the power to end civilization with nuclear weapons. That's what this war is about as well, Russia is just showing it can do as it pleases. There can be no democracy with such disparity of bellic power, that's the reason that institution exists and it's foolish to assume Russia could be expelled.
39Then India and North Korea should be on the Security Council 🤷♀️
19You have a point. India and Pakistan are out of the Security Council because they are underdeveloped and are busy having their nuclear missiles aimed at each other. North Korea has at most only a couple of ICBMs and is unable to destroy our entire civilization, even though it can create a lot of destruction with those. That is the most troublesome of nations for the UN, because they don't give a fuck about rules and are slowly increasing their bellic power, thus all the fuss about them improving their nuclear program with the help of Russia. Geopolitics is fun.
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Nah the real reason the UNSC seats are what they are is that they're the winners of WWII.
If anything, kick France out because they did fuck all.
17There can be no democracy with such disparity of bellic power
You think it's democratic for other nuclear armed countries to lord over the rest, as long as they're not Russia?
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I dunno how they're gonna go about that considering Russia could just veto that attempt to strip them lol and citing PRCs permanent security councils seat is just silly.
28There is, however, precedent: the UN General Assembly in 1971 stripped Taiwan of the veto power it held as the representative of China, handing it instead to the communist government of the mainland.
Strip Russia of its veto power and give it to the PRC. Xi can have two vetoes, as a treat.
13Because that is not Russia's seat. It's the Soviet Union's seat. They left the Soviet Union in 1990. In fact, Ukraine left after them, so they have a better claim to the UN seat.
1That argument might have made sense if it were being made in like 1992 but it's been Russia's seat for over 30 years
8Because that is not Russia’s seat.
It is.
It’s the Soviet Union’s seat.
And the Russian Federation (formerly the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic) is the legal successor to the Soviet Union.
They left the Soviet Union in 1990.
The Russian SFSR never "left" or "declared independence from" the Soviet Union https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_State_Sovereignty_of_the_Russian_Soviet_Federative_Socialist_Republic
they have a better claim to the UN seat.
The UN disagrees, sorry.
2Kazakhstan will rise again!
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It's discouraging to hear that the President of Ukraine understands how the UN works about as well as the average redditor.
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He never stopped being a comedian this Zelensky
9I am going to guess that Russia would veto that resolution...
The only way to get rid of the veto powers would be to setup a completely different institution. That would be nice but it will never happen.
2He thinks Ukraine is anything more than a condom for Anglo empire to have a sex intercourse session with Russia. Has he not learnt anything from the recent celebrity meet/conference he went to, where he was standing alone like a grumpy creepy loner?
-2He know his Nazi friends will kill him if he tries to make peace.
6Hallelujah (lol)
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