Are there any vegan communities on the internet which actually lift up veganism instead of seeking confrontation?
11You're cherry-picking friend. This server has lots of tasty recipes, food photos, gardening tips and interesting articles.
7No social justice movement has ever been successful by appealing to the sensibilities of the oppressor, I fully support confronting animal abusers to change their behaviour, it worked on me and it worked on the 8 people I've directly helped go vegan, I'm 4y vegan btw
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I'm not vegan or vegetarian but why the fuck is it that whenever I come across a post like this, all the comments are people from other instances whining? If you don't like the movement then block and move on.
9Most people understand that killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up. It's a self evident conclusion.
In our age using animal products is done because it is either pleasurable or convient. It takes active effort to deny the sheer horror of the reality of that. Anything that threatens to undermine the denial is thus hostile, and so needs to be attacked.
you know this, it's why you're here attempting to salve your conscience with sympathy.
6killing for culinary pleasure is extremely fucked up
i’d argue that that’s simplistic
people all have a line; vegans included… we kill yeast to make bread, and people are fine with that. there’s a line between yeast and humans, and we all draw it somewhere… which is to say nothing about the difference between vegetarian and vegan
having a conversation about morals is fine; passing judgement on someone for their alternative views on where the line is is what most people don’t like
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People don't look at the community, browse all, and find the post. It's how I'm here.
Anyway, I've been cooking with quinoa more. Anyone got some good recipes?
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Yeah, fuck off.
7Who should fuck off?
2The entirety of VTC & Associates.
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"I'm in this picture and I don't like it."
7While there are logical arguments to me made for veganism, many rely on emotional reasoning.
3As opposed to the extremely non-emotional arguments such as "But I like how meat tastes" and "cheese tho" and "for every animal you don't eat I'm gonna eat two"?
8Sure emotional arguments are used by everyone.
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This is a completely arbitrary point and makes no sense.
7And what exactly is a logical reasoning?
Pretty much all political reasoning is emotional, but for some reason, only the "other side" gets emotional.
Wanting equality is an emotional reason. Wanting absolute freedom is emotional. Freedom of speech, aristocracy, fascism, anarchism, progressive income tax are all, if you keep asking "why?" emotional choices.
If, at any point, someone says something is good or bad, well, that's emotional, simply because these are purely human categories that are not rational.
5Vegans: Violently killing animals for no reason, ruining the environment, destroying cultures with animals is both logically and empathetically wrong
Libs: BOTH SIDESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
5You can make a purely rational environmental argument with reducing CO2 emissions.
A pure appeal to emotion is showing slaughterhouse footage or other animal suffering.
A utilitarian philosophical argument about reducing suffering is also logical, not emotional.
A emotional spiritual appeal can be made with karmic debt accumulated or similar.
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Vegans back at it again with being insufferable. Stew in your own misery.
0logical lessons from the community that believes humans are not omnivorous despite the entire historical and biological record.
-2Person who doesn't understand what an ethical position is says removed
6what don't you understand about ethics?
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"Psh, you think humans don't murder other humans? Tell me you don't pay attention to history without telling me you don't pay attention to history."
5who are you quoting and why?
your logic is...exemplary.
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