It sure seems like the Optimus robots at Tesla's event were under human control
It sure seems like the Optimus robots at Tesla's event were under human control
CEO Elon Musk promised more than a "human in a robot suit," but the videos we've seen sure look like a human was still involved.
Is the future just having a human slave in a third world country strap into VR and carry your groceries for you?
158That's basically what happens right now. Remember Amazon's smart grocery store? It was just people in India watching cameras. Computer vision wasn't capable of it.
113AI (Anonymous Indians)
56I'm pretty sure this story was blown out of proportion and exaggerated. These people were training and validating the automated systems not watching the cameras 24/7.
That's how AI is trained, manual intervention. It wasn't working as well as they hoped, but it wasn't humans watching cameras in real time.
https://www.theverge.com/2024/4/17/24133029/amazon-just-walk-out-cashierless-ai-india
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He also said that it would result in an “age of abundance” where the cost of everything would drop dramatically.
This never, never, ever happens when they say it will happen. It's always the opposite. Prices go up, jobs disappear, new subscriptions appear, etc.
9It may or may not, you as a consumer will simply never see it. Any costs savings gets gobbled up.
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Turk in a box you say? I'm shocked! Shocked!
115Well, not that shocked.
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We live in a fucking nightmare. Rich assholes wining and dining with robots while most of the world fucking suffers. It's actually crazy. We are bringing into our reality what was just a bad dream like 50 years ago. This is just wild man.
68All those sci-fi novels were meant as warnings not instruction manuals
54Torment Nexus
6I'm betting my two balls that Elysium becomes a real thing
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Every conference/tech showcase is carefully staged to maximize investments.
Well, often times not Tesla.
41This is still so weird to me. Couldn't they even lie right? Use a plastic window just for that car. Apparently it doesn't matter to tesla customers that the end product is shit.
6I think the actual claim is that the truck in general is bulletproof (meaning the metal bits), not that every part of the truck is bulletproof. Here's a video testing that claim, it is bulletproof for certain calibers, but not for larger calibers.
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Whaaaat? A company whose market valuation is almost entirely built on a perpetual lie about automation they are delivering “someday” lied about their ability to deliver automation??
I am shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
50Elon Musk loves a fake presentation.
42The people apologizing for this sort of behavior, even here, just shows how easy it is to manipulate people.
44You remember the first time Musk talked about robotaxis? He never delivered. This robotaxi is another vaporware
29Yeah, Tesla made this claim about the model X being full self driving in 5 years and being able to become an autonomous taxi while you weren't using it. Still waiting on that one...
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Similar to the company who just dressed up models as robots for their presentation
25I feel that almost certainly that is where Musk got the idea from, it worked for them, etc!
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i'm expecting the first million optimus robots will be remote controlled by armies of 'trainers' and elon will claim the ai will use the footage to train itself to do everything later, but we need a trillion+ dollars of compute to achieve that, but the software and hardware required are simply not possible at any budget anytime soon. maybe its good enough to have mass remote slavery for some.
25Maybe there's a brain in there imported from some poor country.
27The real reason for the brain implant chips company… brains in jars controlling robots.
7See: the cyborg soldier subplot of Metal Gear Rising: Revengence
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Question - assuming they are human controlled, how do these compare with bots created by competitors like Boston Dynamics?
6They don’t. They are not competitors. This is not a product that exists as a real purchasable item. Those little robot dog toys are closer to BD than what Elon has done here.
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I mean if drone pilots are cucking people and blowing them instead of blowing them up, I’ll take that as progress at this point
-21I mean they are prototypes I wouldn’t expect fully developed humanoids to be walking around just yet.
-54He [Elmo] referred to these as “your own personal R2D2 C3-PO,” and that in the long term, these robots would cost less than a car – specifically, ~$20k-$30k. A video also described them as an “autonomous assistant, humanoid friend” which could be used for basically any task you can think of.
Perhaps don't market things as something they're not?
72Imagine paying 30k$ so that some guy in India gives you regular handjobs 🤦
Now imagine that’s your job 🤦
7True, but how many tech related things have you seen that promote something but doesn’t actually come true until the final release.
In this instance he is marketing what the final product is meant to do, but is showing people the prototypes so people can understand and get a better idea of the robot and its potential abilities once it is in full production.
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shouldn't market them as fully developed humanoid assistants, then.
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