The nerve of these corporations
The nerve of these corporations
Not sure if hypermarkets do the same thing in other countries, but I've seen it in the states and it pisses me off
Even if you can afford it it makes no sense. Impulse giving is not a solution to systemic food insecurity, homelessness, insufficient healthcare, etc. If there's a societal problem, there should be a societal solution. I don't turn to Walmart to meaningfully address these issues, nor do I trust them to.
83Touché
10Even if you can afford it and want to do it, doing it through them let's them take a tax cut through you. Instead of you taking the tax cut.
4No, it fucking doesn't and every mouthbreathing moron who parrots this needs to have a long hard look at themselves.
Ronald McDonald House is a good charity. Pays for parents to stay near their sick kids' hospital. They do good work.
Stop trying to discourage people from donating to charity. You're actively making the world worse through your own ignorance.
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Care-washing: the greenwashing-adjacent pretending to give a shit about anything other than sloppy blowjobs for your board, top executives, and large shareholders.
48Safeway does that shit. No, I don't want to end hunger. You're a grocery store, you end hunger, assholes.
41They're not even ending hunger that's the worst thing. At best
you're paying their taxes.EDIT: Apparently this is a common misconception. At worst you're also funding fascist 'charities' if they decide to just lie and put the money towards "end transness foundation" or the "kill all gay people fund" instead.0
Just so everyone is aware, when companies ask you to donate, they have ALREADY PAID for the donation and they are trying to get their money back by nickle and diming their customers. Don't fall for this.
36Suspected as much, donating money is an easy way to get a tax break in most places. Wouldn't be surprised to see most companies donating just enough to be sure they got the full tax break from it.
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I love it when McDonalds does this shit
Like, bruh, how about you take money from my order and give that to charity instead?
25Maybe even match the donation, or even half of it. I get that a penny here and there adds up really quickly to an enormous brand like McDonald's, but seriously matching it even for pennies on the dollar would go far to prove that they're not just trying to associate themselves with being charitable.
4If they actually cared they would donate a dollar of each order they get to charity, that would be houndreds of thousands if not a million per month
5or even half of it
I mean they basically do. $20m vs the $56m raised by customers.
But don't let facts get in the way of you frothing at the mouth.
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If you have any to spare, give your money directly to the victims of capitalism: homeless people.
Most charities under capitalism are an excuse to overpay MBA board members with your donation dollars and then brag about being on that board in capitalist circles. Most corporate drives are a way for those corporations to lower their own tax bill on your dime. Most things that need charity under capitalism are glaring reminders of what parts of society capitalist greed leaves out in the cold to starve.
If the homeless spend it on liquor, good for them, a slight reprieve and numbing of the pain our society inflicts on them 24/7 for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries. What, did you think $20 was enough for them to pull themselves back from the abyss the capitalists sent them to to die of exposure and
policeoligarch defense force brutality?And if you won't do that because you won't get a receipt from the homeless human beings to write your donation off on your own taxes, starving the commons of revenue, then fuck you, that isn't charity. Charity is giving with no expectation of return, save a warm fuzzy feeling inside.
There's a name for giving money and expecting something tangible back in return like a tax break: a transaction.
23Check out givewell.org. They evaluate charities based on cost-effectiveness.
11Good reply Seitanic, thank you for the constructive rather than antagonistic input, it is noticed and appreciated
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If the homeless spend it on liquor, good for them, a slight reprieve and numbing of the pain our society inflicts on them 24/7 for the crime of being sub-optimal capital batteries.
I fully agree with you, expect for this part. Not because I want to control what they do with the money, but because I don't want to give means to substances that will most likely extend how long they are in that situation.
I know the US has very little social services, but substance use is often comorbid with homelessness. In that way, how can I give money -- in good conscious -- to someone I'd be worried could be making their situation worse? Or should I just accept that everyone has free will and that they themselves know what's best for their futures?
4By that logic you should never buy anything because you're funding the coke addiction of every single CEO.
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Direct action works. Charity only reinforces the capitalist status quo.
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I always refuse based on principle. You're really going to guilt me in public into giving a few cents even though you're a corporation who could easily afford millions or billions? Fuck you.
20Canada does it all the time as well. I don't feel even a hint of guilt denying it. They also want my name, phone number, address and postal code, all of which I refuse to give, even if I can save 25% on whatever I'm buying.
I'm not a prostitute.
16Prostitutes have an assumption of anonymity.
725% is actually a lot
4It is. It was being pushed on me by a cannabis store to get cheaper weed a couple weeks back. So its fresh in my mind. However, not giving out my information has resulted in no spam calls on my phone, and that peace and quiet is worth a few extra dollars.
She claimed they would never sell or use that information except to get me to confirm my phone number in a text.
It reminded me of when I was at Cabela's about ten years ago, and gave them my name and email, only she misspelled my name real bad, and I didn't correct her. I got spam emails for years with that misspelling afterwards.
There is always a price to pay.
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These corporations then pass off your donations as their own and get a tax write off
14Doesn't matter to you that this is false and is just something you repeat every chance you get I assume
6This has to be more widely known! They pay less taxes because of your donation!
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I'm not really offended by the asking for donations at the register thing, as long as those donations go 100% to the charity and it's a good charity, then doing something to make it easy for people to contribute who wouldn't otherwise take the time is ultimately a good thing.
The one that annoys me is where they match the donations. It feels like a method to guilt people into it by making their refusal to donate $1 into $2 not being donated.
9Rich people are begging poor people to give charity and this makes you, a poor person, feel good?
I’m outraged by chutzpah of asking your customers to give to charity when the company barely does any charity of their own.
26Walmart had $572,800,000,000 in revenue for 2022. Thats up $14,000,000,000 from 2021. They paid out shareholders $15,900,000,000
I'm sure my $1 will make a huge difference.
18I think you're both right here. Making it easy to donate to a cause with which you believe, by making a donation box available, is awesome. Guilt tripping you into it is wrong. Asking you loudly at the register is wrong. Matching my donation (a form of shaming if you don't donate) is wrong. A grocery store around here use to do a "we are donating $x to this charity, help us if you can by adding to the pile" thing, which was nice. They donated what they donated, and you added on top of that if you could. They made it easy. Then they got on the "we'll match your donation" train, and that, imo, was wrong. Pure chutzpah. I stopped donating at the stores when that happened. I'll still donate directly to the organization, though, if I agree with their cause.
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I think it is completely inappropriate. Some people can barely afford to live and then have to feel shame and judged when they have to say no.
19This is also why tipping culture grinds my gears
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In Canada, there is no tax write off or anything that compliments them in donations. It is totally and utterly a cock measure for "lookie at what we done!" for PR by making their employees ask people to their face for charity on behalf of the corporation. And the charities will encourage this because, well they get it all and they're name also gets said directly to the face of the consumers.
essentially they replaced a separate paid mall santa with an already paid teller and feel good about it.
So please, tell Y'all Mart to fuck off. Find a manager to explain your distaste and disgust. Legit, go to customer service and get a manager. If you think you're super cool and clever with "smrt cuments" or anger towards the poor fuck who has to ask, no. You're an asshole and just being a cunt to ruin someones day. It's not the worker, stupid. Many rely on those charities and it is doubly insulting and embarrassing to even bring it up.
"I might need those har har har" fuck you. the person you are being a tard to is already on them. Shut. The. Fuck. Up.
If you mean it, and feel that desire to say it, take it to the fucking manager. Keep those pricks standing there for hours. You'd actually be getting your message into the correct channel, and likely doing the clerks a favor because i have never met one that felt good about having to ask people for money like that.
7Lamo of course you couldn't stop yourself from doing an ableist slur. Always the case with these heroic defenders of the system.
-3Oh noes, the manner in which I communicate is not on par with this nazi of linguistic purities! Please, oh please tell me how to better tell you to go fuck yourself for being a cunt to workers and feeling proud of defending such attitudes because of your trigger words!
Skip the entire message for your petty bullshit. No wonder people think you are a fucking moron.
such funny.
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In Vancouver the expected % of tipping has become higher than the interest rate of a grocery store credit card. Even moral purists who think they're saving the world by tipping are starting to say no.
7I've seen this in Australian supermarkets and especially in clothing stores
6Can't shop at Cotton On anymore.
Would you like to buy the single use plastic water to provide safe drinking water to people? No. How about make a donation to starving kids? No. How about buying these socks to support shelter for some country? No. Are you a member? No. Would you like to be a member? No.
Would you...... "NO. JUST LET ME PAY FOR MY T SHIRT"
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TLDR; those donations go straight to the same corporations' pockets and "help" them :D
5Wtf are hypermarkets?
5Super super markets.
7In some countries bigger grocery stores are called that. I think it exists mainly in French and Italian regions
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I don't know where that money goes but it sure as hell isn't to any of the people doing the actual work
4I always say "nah, fuck em."
I'm not helping them get more tax breaks.
4They do not get a tax break for it. They do get cheap PR though.
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It happens in the UK too.
4Air Canada does this shit on their flights. Disgusting.
2If you, the civilian, donates to a legitimate cause, the billion dollar company won't be able to claim that donation on their tax deductions.
If they donate, it's a zero sum game. Maybe 5 mins in the spotlight for alturism.
But if you give them the money to donate on your behalf? They don't spend a cent and are able to get tax deductions for "philanthropy". It's the best possible outcome (for the company).
1In most cases, 100% goes to the charity directly. It's free advertising for the charity. If you're able, you should round up and donate.
-11The billion dollar supermarket chain should donate a fraction of a percent of their wealth and make more difference than begging their customers will. If they're so eager to donate, donate their 'own' profits already exploited from the customers, workers and suppliers. It's bullshit virtue signalling, no different to when they put up their pride month stuff then do nothing in terms of providing real support.
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Yeah most do. They get to take those donations as tax write-offs for the rest of the business.
I sometimes joke "no thanks I'm more likely to be the one actually needing those donations" and some cashiers look pretty horrified lol
-14No they don't, this is tax fraud and illegal. Companies are not allowed to claim donation round-ups as their own for tax purposes. They may match donations, which they can claim, but they cannot claim money they did not spend as their own donations. You, however, can, if you keep your receipts.
"Just because it's illegal doesn't mean they don't do it" -- Fair point, but this is the IRS we're talking about. I doubt big business are willing to fuck around that particular avenue. Other avenues, definitely.
19Wow, this place really is becoming Reddit!
I had to see that particular lie for like 13 years there, glad to see the same bullshit transfer right over!
Good for you for spreading hyperbolic provocative lies on the internet without ever looking it up for yourself!
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