Donald Trump wins US presidency

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Donald Trump has 267 of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House and is leading in key races left to be called, including Michigan and Wisconsin.

Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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Democrats will learn nothing from this.

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- Id go so far as to say they're paid good money to explicitly not learn from this.
  
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  Democrats are learning in real time what the real function of a controlled opposition party is in a capitalist dictatorship.
  
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  “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked
  
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- Well I guess the good news is that it no longer matters if they learn anything? These election results make it clear that going forward they'll have about as much effect on lawmaking as a dead hamster. It's even possible that, except for serving as a convenient cardboard bogeyman, they'll otherwise cease to exist at all.
  
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- "We didn't go far enough right to win over MAGAs hearts and minds."
  
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- "Are we out of touch? No, it's the voters who are wrong."
  
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- You can blame Democrats all you want. This is a cause of Americans being idiots and bigots.
  
  I don't wanna hear another damn word about Palestine from young leftists, after they stayed home. You all need to shut the fuck up with your moralizing and bitching, when you won't even vote. Enjoy Trump, morons.
  
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  The Biden regime did this, no one else.
  
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  If a blowout this big occurred just because young leftists protested the genocide, it stands to reason that the democratic party made in error in judgement when they supplied more bombs to the genocide and scolded young leftists. They campaigned with Liz fucking Cheney and had Bill Clinton tell muslims in Michigan they deserve it. If you see this as anything other than a complete failure in leadership, you're delusional.
  
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  You became a nazi to win and you lost. Now you're a loser and you're a nazi.
  
  I think you need to removed yourself from the conversation.
  
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  Oh leftists voted, just not for anyone engaging in genocide.
  
  Cry about it.
  
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  With "allies" like these, who needs the republicans?
  
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  They shouldn't have stayed home. They should've voted for Jill Stein.
  
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Every time i think the US can't get any more ridiculously observationally challenged, I'm taught otherwise...

A billionaire, convicted felon, moron and over all most likely a damn pedo gets elected to be the top-clown of the clown-college.

I'm sorry for every sane murican who has to endure that. And especially for everyone that is not "normal"....

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- Oh he's definitely a pedo. Creeping on his own daughter. Peeping on young girls in changing rooms. Epstein's best friend.
  
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- I agree with your message, but please try to avoid the r-slur. Its an ableist slur and quite triggering for many people, even if you mean it innocently.
  
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  You're totally right, sorry. And of course it wasn't meant in that way.
  
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- taught*
  
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  Damn it, i knew there was something smelly there. Thanks.
  
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- At least I can be super smug to everyone as the country burns around me...
  
  Enjoy paying 200% more for everything.
  
  Enjoy a national abortion ban.
  
  Enjoy having a president Vance in 6 months when Trump threatens the wrong Oligarch
  
  Enjoy having to grease a million hands to get the same government contracts you won on your own merits last year
  
  I could probably keep typing this list for the next 4 years and not run out.
  
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  If i would have to live there (and i wouldn't even wanna go on vacay there) I'd probably be equally cynical and bitter. Not much else left to do, other than seeing the comedy in the tragedy.
  
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Kamala must be so stoked to see so many republicans in the cabinet.

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I feel like people are just rolling over and taking it? He shouldn't even be eligible because of the 14th Amendment "no insurrection" thing.

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- Democrats vocally came out against getting him off the ballot for his crimes alleging 'you can only beat him at the ballot box', but it turns out they can't.
  
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  Got a source on that? I gotta read more news it seems.
  
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  Wait, what? I can't say I'm surprised, but I never heard about this.
  
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Well, crap.

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On the plus side maybe we will start hearing about the horrors at the US Border that magically stopped in november 2020.

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- Would you look at that? The immigrant caravan just vanished, as if by magic!
  
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Fuck

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Isn't USA culture very big about "never give up"?

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- Eh, at this point a majority of the voting block voted for fascism. I'm about ready to just call it, go home and not participate anymore.
  
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  I understand your feelings but would urge you tor reconsider. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.
  
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- Only if you're white. If not, do as your told or you may be assaulted, imprisoned, or shot dead. Sometimes you'll do what your told and those things will still happen.
  
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  And if you do make it, like the people of Tulsa did, then the racists will bomb your city.
  
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The leopard ate my face are going to hit so hard all those non white and rich trump fan in the next years

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Despair is typical of those who do not understand the causes of evil, see no way out, and are incapable of struggle.

-Vladimir Lenin

There is hope! It isn't easy, it isn't fun, but if we can know our circumstances, we can know our way out of them, and if we know our way out, we can get out.

Get organized. Join a Leftist org, find solidarity with fellow comrades, and protect each other. The Dems will not save you, it is up to the Workers to protect themselves. The Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization both organize year round, every year, because the battle for progress is a constant struggle, not a single election. See if there is a chapter near you, or start one! Or, see if there's an org you like more near you and join it, the point is that organizing is the best thing any leftist can do.

Read theory. A good primer is Blackshirts and Reds. It will help contextualize what fascism is, what causes it, and how to stop it. I can offer a good introductory reading list regarding Marxism if you'd like, but this is a good starting point.

Aggressively combat white supremacy, misogyny, queerphobia, and other attacks on marginalized communities. Cede no ground.

Be more industrious, and self-sufficient. Take up gardening, home repair, tinkering. It is through practice that you elevate your problem-solving capabilities. Not only will you improve your skill at one subject, but your general problem-solving muscles get strengthened as well. Theory guides practice, which sharpens theory to be reapplied to better practice.

Learn self-defense. Get armed, if practical. Be ready to protect yourself and others. The Democrats will not save us, we must save each other.

Be persistent. If you feel like a single water driplet against a mountain, think of the Grand Canyon. Oh, how our efforts pile up! With consistency, every rock, boulder, even mountain, can be drilled through with nothing but steady and persistent water droplets.
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No. Fuck no. Absolutely not.

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Ew, gross.

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Tyranny by majority...

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Ah, well! Nevertheless,

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The best news in the last three years! :)

I just hope that he will follow through with quickly finishing the war in Ukraine.

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- I just hope that he will follow through with quickly finishing the war in Ukraine.
  
  Yeah, that's a monkey paw wish. His "ending the war in Ukraine" almost certainly means giving Putin whatever he wants.
  
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  Personally, I wish we'd turn Moscow into a Walmart and the rest of Russia into its parking lot.
  
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  Yeah, that's a monkey paw wish. His "ending the war in Ukraine" almost certainly means giving Putin whatever he wants.
  
  Even if you are right (I don't think so), so what?
  
  How is this worse then what is hapenning now (to Ukrainians)?
  
  Inb4 probably some delusiomal fantasies about how Putin is gonna invade the whole world, etc. :/
  
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- I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia and letting them murder Zelensky.
  
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  I'm sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia
  
  Wouldn't happen, but even this is way better than giving it to Zelensky.
  
  and letting them murder Zelensky.
  
  No way. I mean that would be awesome of course, bringing justice to that murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, terrorizing the rest for three years and not letting people escape. But that would never happen, USA almost certainly gave Zelensky some guarantees that he will be able to escape to USA after this war ends.
  
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- Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.
  
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  Perhaps if you're some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.
  
  I am Ukrainian. I have no idea whether Slavic people are considered white or not, but I am quite sure I'd benefit from a literal war in my country ending.
  
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- Fuck you filth
  
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- He will. By fucking capitulating completely, and letting Putler walk all over Europe.
  
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