Ukraine War to End Quicker Under Trump, Zelenskiy Tells Suspilne
Ukraine War to End Quicker Under Trump, Zelenskiy Tells Suspilne
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy tells Suspilne media platform that under US president-elect Donald Trump the war in Ukraine will end quicker, according to Suspilne website.
Trump, who takes office in January, has said he’d seek a quick deal between Kyiv and Moscow.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz held a phone call earlier on Friday, the first direct communication between the leaders in almost two years and discussed the war in Ukraine.
So Trump insists that Ukraine surrenders and Zelenskyy goes along with it I assume is what’s being said here? Now, does Ukraine give up all their land or just what the Russians have captured so they can take the rest later?
34I'd assume what they already captured. Also, I don't think they'll have any other option. At least it would be better than losing all the funding and weapons from the US and end up losing their whole country. Trump could very well throw a temper tantrum if they didn't agree on his "best deal in the history of mankind" as he might call it.
29Yes, the deal might contain a freeze-frame solution for the already captured territories. They would be declared demilitarized zones (under russian administration). In addition to that, Ukraine needs to agree not to join NATO (IMO for the next 20 years or so).
It would be a net victory for Russia.
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Several social media comments I read 😊
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The CIA for the last 4 years has reported that Russia has neither the will nor the capability to capture and hold Ukraine. The only people who are saying it are people like you. Russia will not take all of Ukraine because it does not serve them to do so and it is not militarily feasible for them to do so.
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I think Z must be playing the game: stroke Trump's ego.
33Referring Zelenskyy as Z which is the pro-Russian war on Ukraine is offensive, isn't it? Also it's about the survival of his people, that only shows he can put his ego aside and try to appease Trump, something Trump couldn't ever do.
-9Oh sorry, we constantly forget Z is cursed and cancelled.
Elensky
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If this were about the survival of his people then he wouldn’t have scuttled the Minsk Agreements. And he would have taken a much better peace deal ~2.5 years ago then he’ll ever get now, saving tens to hundreds of thousands of his people’s lives. But it isn’t about the Ukrainian people, it’s about the Ukrainian state and his own hide. It’s certainly not about the men being dragged off the streets by conscription squads and shoved out to the front line to die.
5Yeah, wish we had a leader like him, no matter how you spell or abbrev his name.
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Are negotiations finally happening behind the scenes? Ffs could've just done this from the beginning. Fuck boris
16Why Fuck Boris?
0Because negotiations will be bad for Ukraine, but they are forced now cause trump.
-4Fuck Boris. But not for that. Surrender is not an option.
-11Russia won, it's time to start engaging with reality.
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Let's not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.
5Get defs correct
Congress sent wespons to ukraine.
Trump broke the law and delayed the funding in an attempt to blackmail ukraine over US election properganda.
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1TLDR: misleading information for people who won't scroll to read the rest
@freagle@lemmtgrad.ml: Let’s not forget that Trump was the first president in history to send weapons to Ukraine. All prior presidents including Obama said it was far to provocative to do so.
Weird choice of words, provocative refers to something that arouses a strong reaction, while escalating means to increase in intensity or scope.
U.S. officials were concerned that providing Javelins to Ukraine would escalate their conflict with Russia.
A bit of nitpicking that doesn't matter til fact-checking the rest of your statement.
Cotton spokesperson Patrick McCann told PolitiFact that Cotton was referring to Javelins, antiarmor missiles provided by the Trump administration. In 2014, Obama rejected a request by Ukraine for those weapons.
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However, Obama’s White House approved other aid. In total, from 2014 to 2016, the United States committed more than $600 million in security assistance to Ukraine. Under Obama, the federal government started the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative, which sent other kinds of U.S. military equipment to the country. From federal fiscal years 2016 to 2019, which overlap with Obama and Trump, Congress appropriated $850 million.
You're misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.
Looking at his profile it all makes sense, must be a Trump supporter in hiding wandering Lemmy posts.
0Looking at his profile it all makes sense, must be a Trump supporter in hiding wandering Lemmy posts.
Anyone to the left of me is secretly to the right of me.
10Your own source says Obama rejected sending weapons, but approved other non-weapon aid.
The single comment you sourced says they didn't want Ukraine's conflict with Russia to escalate.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/03/when-america-toes-moscows-line-214970/
Ukrainian leaders told me that the only action that Secretary of State Kerry and other American interlocutors took was to insist that the government in Kiev should do nothing to provoke Russia, in particular strongly urging Ukrainians not to use force
So your insistence that my word choice is nefarious is only reinforced by your anemic attempt at what you pretend is "research".
You're misleading people, it did send weapons just not the one that was requested at the time.
No. This is not accurate.
Facts First: Trump is being hyperbolic here. While the Obama administration was criticized for its refusal to provide lethal assistance to Ukraine, it did provide more than $100 million in security assistance, as well as a significant amount of defense and military equipment.
Lethal aid is weapons. Armored humvees are not weapons.
The idea that you think I'm a Trump supporter after reading my comment history is hilarious and says way more about you than it does about me.
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Would love to know the logic here.
4Zelenskyy is putting ego aside to try making Trump come to his senses, but never rely on headline, they may be true but also very often misleading to make people read it (rage baits and such)
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End the war in Ukraine so that the US can double its war efforts in the Middle East. Is that Trump's plan?
4Don't also forget about East Asia.
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