7mo ago

Makes more sense than the Imperial system

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A metric ton would be more accurately called a megagram (Mg).
What Jesse is proposing here is a new prefix of skelegram to be 10,000 grams. That would also mean a skelemeter to be 10,000 m.
- I really want skelemeter to be a word.
  
  It rolls off the tongue.
  Skelemeter...
- I think he's proposing a skele-ton which is 0.01 tons, (i.e. 10kg), not a skelegram which is 10,000g. A skele-gram in this case would be 0.01g.
  
  Well a metric tonne is based on a prefix, so a prefix to that is a double prefix. Skelemegagram to suit that situation which is the wrong way to do it.
- An obsolete 10,000 prefix already exits ("myria-") but Jesse's prefix is a bit snappier.
  
  Motion to bring "lakh" to the Westen world.
- No no no no!
  Skelegram is my startup that sends skeletons to people to their email address or physical address.
  
  I thought it was a new social media platform focused on pictures of skeletons.
- This is my biggest complaint about SI, kg being the base mass unit with a heckin' prefix.
  Bring back the grave 🥲

I mean... basing measurement on representative objects IS the imperial system.
- That is ALL measurement systems.
  Metric is based on standard meters and kilograms and so forth. And, funny enough, imperial measurements are more or less always based on metric measurements (which are based on said references for metric measurements) anyway.
  I still think it is annoying to have to learn and internalize multiple systems (even if "6 feet" is easier to remember than "about 1.8 meters"). But unless you are doing scientific computing (where some of the constants map well to metric when working with certain materials at certain temperatures and pressures), it really doesn't matter.
  All that matters is that everyone stay consistent. And before you say "Well, that is why you use metric": This solver assumes kg/m^{3. That solver assumes g/mm}3 because it is generally used at a very different scale. And that one is kg/cm^3. And so forth. And that sick fuck insists on 3 space indents in all code.
  
  Meter is defined as the distance travelled by light in vaccum in 1/299792458th of a second. Then kilogram is defined with a kibble balance. The problem with standaed objects is that it is not fundamental. If the standard decays, the measurements all turn wrong. It is important to associate theese to fundamental constants, which does not change and can be independently measured.
  even if "6 feet" is easier to remember than "about 1.8 meters"
  Would use 180 cm which is not as hard to remember, with more precision. Also why 6 feet specifically? 160cm becomes 5 and a quarter feet which is pretty messed. My argument here is bad because we are comparing magnitudes of units, which is useful in different scenarios. But i see no problem that is not fixed by dividing or multiplying the current one by powers of ten and calling it centi, kilo, mega, micro, etc.
  Not just the scientific computing, but imperial system is harder to learn because there is no specific fashion in the units. How much inch is a foot and how much foot is a yard(?). Actually i don't know thoose they change between 6 and 12 and maybe more different numbers. The thing you are talking about is water's volume, which can make water's density a standard and measure densities of other fluids relative to water. But the conversion factor of 10 is the most advantageous thing which is also simple.
  The solver assuming any unit is hilarious. Units must be always specified. You can't take a measurement in terms of some units and then not say the units. There is no point of using exact same units(without scaling) just to be consistent. You are supposed to use different units for different scales.
  And that sick fuck insists on 3 space indents in all code
  That's why I preffer tabs ;) You can have whatever number of space you want without annoying others. It will be consistent for different setups
  Edit: Bunch of typos I wrote while I'm half awake
  
  And before you say "Well, that is why you use metric": This solver assumes kg/m^{3. That solver assumes g/mm}3 because it is generally used at a very different scale. And that one is kg/cm^3.
  Well, that is why you use SI units.

SI units are fun!
My car needs 7 liters of gas per 100 km.
7 liters / 100 km =
7 dm³ / 100 km =
0.007m³ / 100,000 m =
0.000007 m² =
0.07 mm²
The question what this area represents is left as an exercise to the reader.
Bonus trivia: The newest SI prefixes are only 2 years old:
quetta (Q) = 10³⁰
ronna R) = 10²⁷
ronto r) = 10^-27
quecto (q) = 10^-30
- The area of the base of a tube as long as the lenght of travel that would contain the volume of gasoline needed to travel said distance.
  
  Go go gadget dong!
- The question what this area represents is left as an exercise to the reader.
  https://what-if.xkcd.com/11/ is relevant.
- I know this is a joke, but could help myself: you can't always just cancel units like this.
  It's more like 0.007 m³(fuel burned) / 100,000 m(travelled)
  Can't really cancel those.

So when you're kind of enthused about something but not, like, really psyched, you can say, "That sounds like a skeli-ton of fun."

Not only make more sense, it avoid errors. Imperial system don't even make difference between mass and weight. Some confusion in the imperial system has already cost NASA several space probes. Imperial units are non linear and aleatoric values without any sense, using the measures of bodyparts of an King in the past, obsolete in science, mathematic and architecture. Used in Airlines and nautics, almost by tradition
- Oh, the date thing. I hate it because it conflicts with rest of the world too 05/06/2024 causes lot of confusion since we can't even know which system we are using. Thanks it only happens online not locally in my country
  
  Even more annoying, because there's a bunch of software with bad localisation where we sane DD/MM/YYYY and YYYY.MM.DD users are forced to see the abomination that is MM/DD/YYY and it leads to errors.
  
  Yes, online it¡s better to write the month name to avoid confusion, because of 4 removed countries worldwide wich still use the imperial syste,

I needed way to long to get the actual point.... Geez I need to get my shit together

centikilogram? thats double prefix
- Centiton, which is very funny.
  This is the most in character dialogue I've seen in this meme
- Centikilogram is 10^{-2 x10}3 = 10 grams, a skeleton is 10Kg though, they meant that a skeleton aka centi-ton is 10kg, which is a 1DKg, D meaning 10 and K meaning 10^3 of course. Scalling units can multiply with each other since they are just numbers in disguise.

Skelepede

I will use all the archaic measurement I want & you can't stop me.

The SI base unit is actually the kilogram (despite naming), a metric tonne is actually a megagram lol.
Anyhow, if the prefix-less naming matched the base unit, 10 kg would be a "decagram". As it is, it's 10,000× the base of the naming system, and there's no prefix on factors of 10 above 1000, so sadly there's no way to name it neatly.
Edit: actually it looks the like the Greek for 10,000 is "myriad", so it would be a myrigram. Dope!