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6mo ago

The myth of consensual peace

Sources: https://news.gallup.com/poll/653495/half-ukrainians-quick-negotiated-end-war.aspx https://news.antiwar.com/2024/11/19/poll-majority-of-ukrainians-want-peace-talks-to-end-war-with-russia/

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No bias at all.
- What is the bias?
  
  If it contradicts the State Department line, it's biased. If it's based on evidence, reality is biased.
- Bias to what? Is the source wrong? 63% in the eastern part want peace talks (52% in total) and they're not getting them, why is that?
  
  A great mystery. Guess we should Putin some thought to that.
  
  Did you look at the "data" it says nowhere that I could find ANY demographics relating to the poll.
  
  because putins precondition for peacetalks is ukranian withdrawal from the donbass, which translates to any progress made by the ukranians since 2022.

So a minority of 27% is desperate enough to offer territorial concessions but I doubt even they are willing to give as much as Putin demands

Western stooge of Russia demands Ukraine surrender the lands taken by invasion.

Bad meme. Try Saidit.

Bruh are we at the point when saying "I agree with Ukrainian civilians in wishing the bloodshed would stop via diplomacy" gets gringos frothing at the mouth? What the fuck is wrong with y'all
- it's that zelensky is being posed in the meme as the main obstacle to peace, rather than the invading russian army.
- I'm starting to think those people are just sadists wishing to see as many Ukrainians and Russians dead as possible...
  They don't even refute anything, if you say anything remotely critical of Ukraine/Zelensky, you are just declared Russian bot/propagandist and your opinion doesn't matter. Wow.
  
  Fr. It's taken as a given that they don't give a fuck about the opinion of Ukrainians. Shit, if you're so against Putin, why not have your country go to war so you can put on the boots? Why do others have to die for what you believe in?

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