Rednote right now

People of the US and China are both unsure of what to believe about the other, because both are so propagandized lol

School shootings is something uniquely american. Even México doesn't have them and we have a decent amount of narcojuniors (rich sons of drug dealers) that would have plenty access to guns, the only time i remember a school shooting happening it was in a private school in Monterrey like 7 years ago, which is pretty much the most americanized part of México.

I'm reminded of that ex Soviet joke about how they always knew the government was lying about their own countries but were shocked to learn it was telling the truth about america

Good comrades like Lady Izdihar are taking off in a big way, might help radicalize a lot of people towards Marxism even.

Everyone pretending Europe doesn't exist? Most countries have most healthcare for "free" (mandatory healthcare taxes).

Trying to dodge Chinese traditional medicine in Asian countries when you go to the doctor is such a pain in the ass.

I had to go to three different Japanese doctors before they would give me something other than herbal powder.

The wart had to grow so it could be killed

I mean isn't this more "circle jerking " about dismantling state propaganda? Interacting with those you were told are your enemy?

Besides, people should always celebrate the positives, and look towards them as something that is possible in their country too.

And as an fyi: when we were here before, the workers revolution in Russia was new. The achievements were so profound that workers in North America began demanding similar concessions from our governments. There was a real threat of overthrowing the existing power structures. And what happened? Weekends, literacy, healthcare, just generally improved living conditions. To dismiss cultural exchange as circle jerking is to ignore history and the power that comes with knowing things are better elsewhere, and that you can have that too.

You keep on coping there little buddy. What's happening is that regular people from both countries are now talking directly to each other, and finding out what life is actually like.

Sorry for being pedantic, but those foldable work rulers are exactly 2 m long (at least in MetricLandia), which is, incidentally, the span of IQ values (0-200).

So yeah, it literally can be mapped one-to-one to a (common type of) ruler.

I was told that I was a spy in RL. Why would a European person learn Chinese? Clearly spy.

Kek even

They could, but they dont want to.

The ban discussion originated during the 2020 election when Trump didn't like the information being spread there as he thought it aligned more with left wing policies. So he wanted it banned. People kept pushing the "it's bad for kids" bullshit to keep it rolling until it finally went into effect. The Democrats didn't try to stop it, and the people voted back in the person who wanted it banned. So effectively, they did vote for it in a way.

some people can’t handle that most humans just wanna be friends regardless of gov politics bs

Yes exactly. There are lots of internet weirdos trying to spread culture war nonsense, but if you actually go outside every once in a while, you realize that most people just aren't like that. I work in a restaurant that has a lot of ukrainian and russian visitors (migrants). At one point, a large group of russians came in for a birthday party, and they asked the owner to put on a playlist of russian music. Like, really cheesy russian pop. After some time, a girl from a smaller table of ukrainians calls me over and complains about the music. I relay it to the owner, and he asks them what they would rather listen to instead. They tell him, and he adds their songs on the queue. The rest of the evening was spent playing and dancing to russian and ukrainian and armenian songs (the owner is armenian, and there were some armenian guests too) and the atmosphere was just generally very chill. Not a single fuck was given about politics that evening.

yep most genuinely don't care, people just hate to be a part of something lol

She can get it.

My people are now listening to your pop music and wear your blue jeans eating your noodles and use your social media apps.

Oh yeah they really like Soviet culture. My first post on there is of some Soviet artwork and it got 1.3k likes, on a brand new account. Wouldn't see that happening on Insta or Xitter.

Norway actually does.
Source: Am norwegiam. Am parent.

In the US? Lol, no.
Source: I work with a bunch of Texans.

If only...

"And our tests have concluded, that this is, in fact, a lie."

I like how one person said they don't use child labour because they are inefficient. If they were efficient though ...

You believe the rest lol? I mean it can be true but its just made up internet memes.

American here, yes. To be fair I don't think about China a lot.

But... social credit literally is real... There are government legislations on this. It is not a conspiracy theory.

On the other hand Western media definitely has exaggerated and demonized it a lot. The social credit is basically your credit score, but it is more expansive and uses information some might see as encroaching on their personal privacy and freedoms.

Plenty of people also still believe the secret Chinese police stations bullshit.

I mean I feel real stupid reading into it, but up until now, yes

Social credit scores were a thing. People were punished for low scores. It only happened in a few cities and it was described as a pilot.

Obviously the pilot got a lot of bad press in and outside China and it is no longer happening

does it surprise you when a non neglible amount of americans believe the earth is flat? or that vaccines have nanomachines to control your brain? 😂

Indeed.

And they believe Uyghur genocide too. They're fucking brainwashed. They completely lack critical thinking capabilities.

harsh labor conditions and low pay

As opposed to how it is in the US...?

Pretty naive to think that child labor dosen't exists in China tbh. Maybe not at the scale of child factory workers that some western media like to depict, but at a smaller scale, in farming, family owned business and small isolated factories.

Purchasing power is rising dramatically, labor conditions as well.

Same.

Not hard to believe when there's camps for uyghurs.

Happy to be wrong.

I mean america has wage slavery. I just think the detail are just different

labor conditions actually aren't very bad at all. equivalent to first world countries. pay is relative

But in the US it's legal. In a bunch of states all you need is parental consent for a teen barely out of puberty to marry an adult, and some will lower the age if the child is already pregnant.

We tried banning it but failed. My girlfriend was a teenager married to a marine when she was 17

But nowhere else on the planet invests as much money and effort into it as the US. $325 million a year on anti China propaganda alone:

https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/1157/text

You never saw that mentioned in the media did you? There is a reason for that:

It is one of the most important aspects of our media system, and yet hardly known to the public: most of the international news coverage in Western media is provided by only three global news agencies based in New York, London and Paris.

The key role played by these agencies means Western media often report on the same topics, even using the same wording. In addition, governments, military and intelligence services use these global news agencies as multipliers to spread their messages around the world.

https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

Just a bit of context as someone from Eastern Europe - it was not that people couldn't afford cars, it was that they were in short supply. People - fewer people than in the West, but still a lot of people - bought cars, they just got them 30 years after the fact.

What do you mean propaganda piece? Stienbeck didn't write that for Americans to read?

That's generally how propaganda works, though.

There were several "social credit systems" that were set up in various provinces. These were mainly attempts to aggregate public records from different departments into one searchable database. It mostly affected business owners since they have the largest public record footprint. The idea was you could look up who owns what business and how many code violations those businesses had.

This triculates into the american rumor mill and comes out as the "social credit score" meme which is fantasitcal projection from our own opaque credit system.

Great example of how "ironic" racism is still racism. It invites actual racists to join and fit in.

I imagine it could be if you were a minority or a political dissident.

The fact that so many people went through sexual and gender self discovery on Tiktock, but such things are discouraged by the government in China says a lot that makes me uncomfortable.

Not being able to openly criticise the government and its policies also doesn't sit well with me.

It's not my government though, so that's where my criticism ends. If that's what the majority of people want, that's just democracy by another avenue. So long as people are allowed to leave if they choose, then that's fine.

I just assumed everywhere was

It isn’t if you are privileged, the same as the US

It is, but they're not allowed to talk about it. Social credit.

China’s a nation that seems to believe that they can use their government to make things better.

Isn't that what you pay taxes for?

Wait, no? I'm not even chinese and I believed.

Boots only

Perhaps it will get added, but it's important to note that this is a Chinese app for Chinese users, the English influx was an accident.

Still, China's overall geopolitical strategy is to trade and be friendly with literally anyone who will do the same, so I imagine a translation feature may come.

There are a heck of a lot more Chinese people that speak English than there are English speakers that can speak Chinese