Zelensky, Trump get into heated argument while speaking with journalists in Oval Office
Zelensky, Trump get into heated argument while speaking with journalists in Oval Office
Lmfao what gives the US the right to force a peace agreement upon Ukraine? Get absolutely fucked Vance and Trump. Fucks sake I hate this place....
"Just say thank you." Good god. I would have loved to see Zelenskyy lay Vance out for that, Buzz Aldrin style. But because he's a superior human being to everyone else in that room, he did not.
Oh look there's an adult in the room. Can we keep him?
Nope, you voted the adults out of the room, I'm afraid.
Gloating that you were right at the end of the world. What a strange flex.
I'm going to assume you don't have a strong grasp of just how fucked the electoral college and voter rights are in the US.
https://www.aclu.org/news/civil-liberties/block-the-vote-voter-suppression-in-2020
https://www.cgpgrey.com/blog/the-trouble-with-the-electoral-college.html
https://www.democracydocket.com/analysis/how-long-lines-affect-turnout/
I don't expect you to read those. Because you're lobbing easy potshots and offering no constructive criticism in response to my admittedly frustrated sarcastic comment.
These are for people that are interested in understanding the problem and would like to organize grass roots efforts to combat it.
I'll post organizational resources when I get to my desk.
This whole situation is absolutely fucking mortifying, genuinely. I can’t honestly think of another instance in which we’ve pulled such a rapid, bad-faith, ill-advised, and idiotic about face in terms of foreign policy.
I just hate that his kids will campaign on his effectiveness as a leader in like 8-12 years.
Hopefully, he’ll have hurt and killed enough people that his popularity goes down somewhat. But he’s always gonna have the Nationalist Christians / Dominionists on his side - that needs to be addressed from a societal angle
B-b-but the minerals! Their value might just cover the rebuilding of the critical government functions after DOGE is finished looting it and the world is at war.
That was physically painful to watch. It's beyond comprehension that snake oil seller became president. TWICE.
Europe, I hope it's not needed, but prepare as if WWIII is coming. I don't know if this time US will be an ally or not.
Yeah I literally couldn’t finish it as my blood was boiling. What giant fucking pieces of human garbage both Trump and Vance are.
I refuse to believe the american people will let him sit for four years. It’s just impossible to fathom that a single person can still defend this walking piece of wasted oxygen.
I feel truly sorry for all of you having to live in the US of today. Please don’t give up on your decency, solidarity and humanity.
I couldn't watch it all, trump and vance acted like used car salesman, yelling at someone because they got called out on their fleece and lies.
I think most of the world would like to send Zelensky a fruit basket with a shit load of long range cruise missiles and FPV drones.
Zelensky should be commended for the simple fact that he didn't punch trump square in the jaw as soon as he was in the same room with him. God knows I wouldn't be able to restrain myself if I ever had the opportunity.
You know... not that you're wrong... I just think we would all have liked not to have read that last sentence.
Are you kidding, that was fucking legendary. I've never seen anything like that before in my entire life. In the Oval office Zelensky told Trump and Vance they were full of shit, bullies, and simping for Putin. Based Zelensky.
I was hoping for mineral deal with US to drop in water, because it's a bad deal for Ukraine and orange bozo Trump thinks he can push around Zelinskyy just because he's in desperate war and has no choice.
Also to act like a fucking petulent child and behave like total dick at someone who comes asking for help and all you can think about are profits, get your morals fucking right because republican's moral compass is spinning at fucking 50k RPM.
This lovely little talk did in fact kill the mineral deal.
EDIT: From the article
According to CNN, Zelensky left the White House shortly after and the planned signing of the mineral deal as well as a planned press conference were both cancelled.
https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-trump-get-into-heated-argument-during-live-conference/
(...) When Zelensky began to respond, Trump said: "You've done a lot of talking. Your country is in big trouble. You're not winning this.
Zelensky responded :
"We are staying, Mr. President, we are staying in our country, staying strong. From the very beginning of the war, we've been alone. And we are thankful. I said thanks in this Cabinet," (...)
Partial transcripts from hindustan times :
(2 video via twixxxter)
::: spoiler hindustan times source :
https://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/us-news/trump-zelensky-and-vance-get-into-heated-argument-in-oval-office-watch-101740764244678.html
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What really happened ?
::: spoiler ... Vance told Zelensky (lies)
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“I think it's disrespectful for you to come into the Oval Office and try to litigate this in front of the American media. You guys are forcing conscripts to the frontlines because you have manpower problems. You should be thanking the president.”
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Zelenky responded
“Have you ever been to Ukraine?”
::: spoiler Vance shot back (more lies)
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“You bring people on a propaganda tour. Do you think it's respectful to come to the U.S. Oval Office and attack the administration that's trying to prevent the destruction of your country? You went to Pennsylvania and campaigned for the opposition in October. Offer some words of appreciation for The United States Of America and the president who is trying to save your country.”
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Zelenky replied :
“Everybody has problems, even you, but you have a nice ocean and don't feel it now - but you will feel it in the future.”
::: spoiler Trump interjected (rants)
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“Don't tell us what we're going to feel. We're trying to solve a problem. Don't tell us what we're going to feel. You're in no position to dictate what we're gonna feel. You're right now, not in a very good position. You don’t have the cards right now… You’re gambling with WWIII. It's going to be very hard to do business like this. You've got to be more thankful."
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( parallel transcript ...)
When Zelensky began to respond,
Trump said,
"You are not allowed to talk."
Zelensky said :
"From the start of the war we were alone,"
Trump said :
"If you didn't have our military equipment, this war would have been over in two weeks,"
Zelensky responded :
"In three days... I heard that from (russian-president-vladimir) putin," ... "Now, it's two weeks."
JD Vance jumped in :
"Just say thank you,"
Zelensky said he said thank you to the "American people."
In one of the videos posted online, Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana Markarova is seen shaking her head in disbelief.
Zelensky said :
"God bless you won't have a war,"
Trump said :
"You don't know that, don't tell us what we feel,"
... Following a growing argument between the two, Trump said that Ukraine isn't in the position to set the terms for a future agreement.
Trump said :
"You are not in a good position. You don't have the right cards right now,"
Zelensky responded :
"I'm not playing cards,"
Trump then said :
"You're disrespecting this country, you can't play with it,"
Trump said after the argument :
“It’s going to make great television,”
The press briefing ended shortly after.
Zelensky met Trump in Washington on Feb. 28 as the two leaders are "expected" (... ?) to sign a framework deal on Ukraine's natural resources.
Trump shook Zelensky's hand as they stood before journalists, remaining silent as questions were shouted their way.
P.S. :
https://thehill.com/homenews/5169541-zelensky-departs-white-house-trump/
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky cut his visit to the White House short after a spat in the Oval Office led President Trump to call off negotiations.
Trump and Zelensky were slated to hold a press conference in the East Room of the White House after a bilateral lunch meeting in the Cabinet Room. But when their first meeting of the day in the Oval Office turned contentious, the Ukrainian leader departed.
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Trump and Zelensky were slated to hold a press conference in the East Room of the White House after a bilateral lunch meeting in the Cabinet Room. But when their first meeting of the day in the Oval Office turned contentious, the Ukrainian leader departed
Peace out you pair of cunts.
Enjoy your cold Big Macs.
I heard it from Putin.
Yes, well, Kazakhstan's ex-chief of secret services recently confirmed russ's hold on Krasnov. There must be many such agents in Ukraine who also know a lot about Krasnov.
"disrespected the the United States of America in the cherished Oval Office."
He would definitely know.
A shameful day to be an American.
A stupid person( Krasnov Trump ) is the one who boasts he can end a war (not ceasefire) in 24 hours but fails to do it like a loser.
Disgusting behavior.
Tragic to see wtf happened with the US...
There is an alternative unviserse in which Zelensky did the world a service and has beaten up trump after that and gave him an atomic wedgy. It is sadly not our Timeline.
I’m just one US citizen but I’d like to apologize to all Ukrainians on behalf of 50% or so of all people here. Our leadership is disgusting.
Ukraine knows the location of every nuclear power plant and oil wells in russia. Ukr has more cards than Trump thinks.
WTF? That’s bullying and stupidity and I need to breath!
Too bad it wasn’t hockey and they didn’t get into a little scuffle.
Holy shit the sociopathic arrogance of Trump and Vance is horrifying, but this was the cherry on top.
I can't say I'm shocked that these are his personal standards for running the most powerful country in the world in an international setting.
He also called it "doing business"
He's not a leader of a country clearly. He's a money-grubber.
Every day I find new reasons for rage