Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
Palestine-Israel Crisis Megathread II
This is the second megathread for discussion regarding the crisis.
Informal/Satirical news sources are not allowed on the main feed of the community but you are free to post them in this thread.
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Americans Try To Define ‘War Crime’
“It’s a thing that white countries are allowed to do but brown countries are not.”
Based.
64ReplyI am going to use this thread to make a continuation of what I've posted in the first megathread where I shared a plethora of related links that share insight on the nature of this conflict.
Reports
#Nakba
Burying the Nakba: How Israel Systematically Hides Evidence of 1948 Expulsion of Arabs
Classified Docs Reveal Massacres of Palestinians in '48 – and What Israeli Leaders Knew
'I Saw Fit to Remove Her From the World'
Zionist Militia’s Efforts to Recruit Nazis in Fight Against the British Are Revealed
#Recent Events
Using an Attack Dog, Israeli Women Soldiers Forced Palestinian Women to Undress
Cigarette Burns, Beatings, Attempted Sexual Assault: Settlers and Soldiers Abused Palestinians
Israeli Settler Documented Shooting Palestinian at Point-blank in the West Bank
Israeli tank fires on car near Gaza City
Hundreds Involved in Attacking Arabs and Leftists, but Israel Police Arrest Only Four
Far-right Israeli Knesset Member Zvi Sukkot to Head Subcommittee on the West Bank
Perspectives
#Videos
Dr. Gabor Maté (Holocaust Survivor)
^ Here's an interview regarding recent events.
Katie harper interviews political scientist and activist, Norman Finklestein
^At 1:43:50, Finklestein asserts that Israel would bomb a residential area, wait for people to come out and call an ambulance, and then bomb the ambulance.
Katie Harper interviews journalists and political activists regarding recent events.
^At 00:24:15, Ali asserts that Israel is willing to shoot their own civilians as evidenced by the Hannibal Directive, verifiable events, and testimonies such as Yasmin Porat's where the IDF was shooting indiscriminately and even fired tank shells into Israeli homes.
#Articles
How colonizers weaponize rape: reflections from the Palestinian case
Opinion | Dying in Southern Gaza: 'I Want to Go Home. At Least I’ll Die After Drinking Fresh Water'
Opinion | Amid the Mourning, Israel's Settlement Enterprise Celebrates a Great Victory
Testimonials
Israeli Soldier's Explosive Tell-All: "Palestinians are right to resist" - Former IDF soldier talks about how he realized that his actions were perpetuating apartheid, and that Palestinians were right to resist through any means.
Tantoura Ethnic Cleansing Testimony - Yosef Diamant ^[There is a whole-ass documentary for those interested.
Breaking the Silence - Israeli NGO where IDF veterans testify their experiences. Some examples:
If you find any other notable background information, feel free to share.
27Reply‘America First’ Republicans Explain Why They Support Israel’s Military
“Oh, just because I have a basement full of Nazi memorabilia, I can’t support Israel?”
22Reply 16ReplyWhat's the educated opinion of how could this been handled by Israel? Honest question. (Ignoring the fact that Israel failed with intel)
To me it seems like Gaza had no intention to get rid of Hamas though at the same time bombing is unnecessary as the culprits can't really leave other than the secret tunnels to Egypt which can't really be bombed.
So the only real alternative is a full Blockade and ultimatum or something? Clearly Gaza doesn't stand a chance against IDF too so Israel had all of the cards to conjure any response they wanted.
I've tried to Google similar modern scenarios and couldn't find anything.
13ReplyFor those who haven't seen it yet, here's a short video on the history of the conflict:
9ReplyKilling is bad
9ReplyI'll just say it.
The state of Israel is basically the modern Nazi Germany.
I want Israel to exist, but not by genociding an entire ethnic group from the land. This is fucked up, and fuck anyone defending these actions.
7ReplyPublished by the IDF about six hours ago on YouTube: Inside a Hamas Terrorist Tunnel Under Rantisi Hospital in Gaza
6ReplyMap of Palestine from National Geographic magazine 1947.
4ReplyAnxious, optimistic: Families of female Palestinian prisoners await release
‘Can regain our soul’: Relief and fear in Gaza ahead of Israel truce
Israel releases Palestinian women and children prisoners under Hamas deal
Photos: Palestinians released from prison reunite with loved ones
Family celebrates return of freed Palestinian prisoner Marah Bakeer
4ReplyGaza’s Christian community faces ‘threat of extinction’ amid Israel war.
Israel’s assault on Gaza could spell the end of the Christian community’s long history in the enclave.
3ReplyStatement by Hamas' Izzat Al-Rishq;
"Regarding what the spokesman for the terrorist enemy army said about the arrival of prisoners of the occupation to Al-Shifa Hospital, we said early on that the resistance transferred many prisoners of the occupation to hospitals to receive treatment and undergo surgical operations, especially after some of them were injured as a result of the occupation’s aircraft bombing them.
We risked our fighters to guarantee the injured prisoners the best treatment. Possible in hospitals in the Gaza Strip.
We have published many pictures about this; Now their army spokesman presents it as if they have discovered something great.
What the spokesman for the occupation army says completely condemns them. These are points that are recorded for us and not for us.
Taking care of the prisoners, treating them, and giving them possible medical care is a point for us and not for us."
3ReplyIt's funny, as much as I'd like to support Palestine, doesn't their culture suck?
Like, don't they go out of their way to persecute queers?
2ReplyThis Interview is worthwile. For everyone who hasn't succumbed to the war on their mind and soul, as the interviewee Yuval Noah Harari phrased it:
[https://vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=9qaxYQqmzIg](Hamas and Gaza | A Liberal Israeli's View - Yuval Noah Harari | The Rest Is Politics)
2ReplyVideo from 2021 but still relevant.
2Reply 1ReplyDecember 1, 2023: Israeli air strikes pound Gaza as truce with Hamas ends
December 1, 2023: Israel strikes Gaza after truce expires
December 1, 2023: ‘Where to go?’ Palestinians say nowhere safe as Israel resumes Gaza bombing
December 1, 2023: Palestinians flee homes, dig in rubble as Israel resumes strikes on Gaza
December 1, 2023: Gaza aid trucks stranded as Israel-Hamas war resumes
December 1, 2023: ‘Bombing everywhere’: As Israel renews war, my eight-year-old has questions
December 2, 2023: ‘Hell on Earth’ in Gaza: Israel strikes hit Deir el-Balah
December 2, 2023: Photos: More deaths and destruction as Israel targets southern Gaza
December 3, 2023: Over 700 killed in last 24 hours as Israel intensifies strikes | December 3, 2023: From north to south, nowhere safe in Gaza as 700 killed in 24 hours
December 4, 2023: Khan Younis hospital stretched by influx of patients as Israel bombs Gaza
December 4, 2023: No end to suffering of Gaza children as Israeli attacks rage on
December 5, 2023: Searching for survivors after Israeli attack on central Gaza building
December 5, 2023: Israel intensifies strikes on Gaza’s second-largest city
December 6, 2023: Israeli raid kills 22 members of Al Jazeera correspondent’s family in Gaza
December 9, 2023: Photos: Israel bombs Gaza areas it declared safe zones for Palestinians
December 9, 2023: US skips congressional review for emergency sale of tank shells to Israel
December 10, 2023: Nearly 300 killed in Gaza in 24 hours as Hamas, Netanyahu trade threats
December 10, 2023: ‘A hand here, a head there’: Israeli warplanes kill dozens in central Gaza
December 24, 2023: Israeli strikes kill UN staff, more than 70 of his extended family in Gaza
December 25, 2023: ‘Massacre’ as Israel steps up Gaza bombardment for Christmas | December 25, 2023: Israel intensifies Gaza strikes, killing 250 Palestinians in 24 hours | December 25, 2023: Gaza’s Maghazi refugee camp in ruins after deadly Israeli attack
1ReplyDecember 3, 2023: ‘Death corridor’: The al-Samounis recall terror of ‘safe passage’ in Gaza
December 6, 2023: Two Gaza brothers stripped, jeered at by Israeli army, one taken captive
December 8, 2023: Palestinians detained by Israel in Gaza blindfolded, stripped to underwear
December 13, 2023: Civilians sheltering inside a Gaza school killed execution-style | December 21, 2023: UN calls for probe as Israeli army accused of killing unarmed Palestinians | Demember 26, 2023: Classroom massacre: Survivors say Israel executed innocents in Gaza school
1ReplyOctober 6: Palestinian killed as Israeli settlers attack West Bank town of Huwara
November 29: ‘Military camp’: Palestinian town of Huwara under 55-day Israeli closure
December 1, 2023: ‘My son was killed on October 6. There was no Hamas’
December 5: ‘Massacres await’: Palestinians in Nablus warn of deadly settler attacks
December 6, 2023: West Bank family sees no hope of justice in settler killings
December 9, 2023: Two teenagers killed, 15 detained in Israeli raids in occupied West Bank
December 14, 2023: Casualties mount in occupied West Bank as Israeli forces extend raids
December 20, 2023: ‘No safe place’: Jenin’s Freedom Theatre raided, daubed with Star of David
December 24, 2023: Muted Christmas as Palestinian Christians mourn for Gaza
December 25, 2023: Israel hits Bethlehem in Christmas raids on occupied West Bank
December 27, 2023: Six killed in Israeli strike on refugee camp in occupied West Bank
1ReplyHamas must be eliminated for the good of Israel and Gaza. Burying head into sand was already tried and failed
-1ReplyWhy was there a concert happening so close to the Gaza border, what organizer thought that was a good idea
-1ReplyOP makes a satirical title but no satirical news sources allowed. is this hexbear?
-5ReplyI highly recommend Beau of the Fifth Column for more informal news about the conflict. He only ever reports when something can be verified, and has a team helping him do research.
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