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Mike Johnson and his allies tried to defend his extremist views. It didn’t go well.

www.msnbc.com Opinion | Mike Johnson and his allies tried to defend his extremist views. It didn’t go well.

Johnson’s allies are hoping to recast his stances as mainstream “truths” that are beyond challenge.

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the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion

That’s language from the Treaty of Tripoli that was signed by John Adams, our second president. The Founding Fathers were grounded in Enlightenment philosophy. Whatever their personal faith was, they recognized that faith should not dominate politics. That is a threat to democracy and honest compromise in policy.

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- they understood the only way to religious freedom would be agnostic democracy
  
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How did it not go well? The article just details how people are defending his record and beliefs but shows no repercussions nor is it "not going well" for his defenders. He is second in line for the presidency with insane beliefs and theocratic tendencies. Sure seems to be going just fine for him, unfortunately for us.

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- Maybe it's "not going well," because the majority of the public aren't buying their shit? Seems to kind of ring hollow when they have the power to both bring bills to the floor and vote on them.
  
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  If you have to guess what the title means after reading the article, it’s a pretty bad title.
  
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  I would love for that to be true, but where’s the evidence? I skimmed the article but didn’t see any mention of public disapproval.
  
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“It’s a central premise of the Bible that God invented civil government,” Johnson told Olohan, who added that, “like many Americans of faith, Johnson sees government as a ‘design of God’ and ‘a gift to mankind in a fallen society.’

These people are literally insane.

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- God's explicit stance on government is "obey your government, pay your taxes". At no point does the Bible establish a government.
  
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  Your first mistake was thinking they've ever read the thing.
  
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  And the Republican Party can’t even follow those two rules!
  
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  More like King James's stance
  
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It would still be concerning if these nut jobs actually followed all the Bible’s “teachings” like they espouse to but instead they believe that they get to decide what parts of the Bible should be taken literally, what parts need “modern” interpretation and what parts are ignored or hidden.

This makes them even more dangerous because it gives them the power to decide who is abiding by their god’s law and who is in violation of it.

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- which literally describes every organized religion
  
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  Agreed but I think we can all agree that while cults are troubling and shouldn’t exist, death cults are even more so. The type of “Christianity” he subscribes to is very much a death cult.
  
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- In fairness, they have to. There's a fun challenge out there that says open the Bible to a random page and do whatever it says. The last person to go to jail wins.
  
  The Bible doesn't teach morality. It reveals the morality the believer has chosen.
  
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This man looks like he's always about to kiss you full on the mouth but you know what he really wants to do is make a jacket out of your skin. 0 stars.

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- He won't seek consent for either and he's already drafting a bill that that look you're making... yeah, that look... is implied consent.
  
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  Did you just reply to yourself?
  
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  Yes. (See what I did there?)
  
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He’s such a smarmy, sinister looking creep.

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If something happens to Biden, they need to drown this guy, or some nut job is gonna ice Kamala.

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which literally describes every organized religion

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