Meta offering two options. Either buy addfree experience or accept targeted ads
https:// about.fb.com /news/2023/10/facebook-and-instagram-to-offer-subscription-for-no-ads-in-europe/ Meta offering two options. Either buy addfree experience or accept targeted ads
I had turned targeted ads off, on Facebook and Instagram. I still got ads but they were not targeted based on my data. I could live with that
Today I got a popup requiring me to pick an option of either accepting targeted ads or pay the equivalent of €13/$14 for an addfree experience across all meta platforms.
75Do you seriously believe that ad-free means they're not still tracking the hell outta you and aggregating from many sources you probably don't know about like Patreon and shit?
Edit: and on the subject of personalized ads, I find it more worriesome when you can't see whats going on. Its a weird paradox
70You are the ad, for Facebook to impress consumer oriented multinacionals
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I would happily pay (not for Facebook, but as a general consideration) if you would give me an ads free eperience AND stop gathering data from me.
41At this point what about donate to fediverse like Lemmy to get an ads free experence anyway but without beign forced by corps?
29That's what I am doing, actually
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Oh man I get to pay AND have my data taken? Collected by the corporation and stolen by hackers? What an amazing company, truly the leaders of the future of the web Meta is
23I wonder how the EU is gonna like those two options
20It's seemingly due to the Norwegian ban on targeted ads which recently was expanded to the EEC countries. Law professors here in Norway say it looks like it's illegal and commentators liken it to extortion that will unproportionally affect low-income people.
So that's something.
Nobody's talking about the federated Friendica as an alternative though.
29https://consent.guide/cookie-or-pay-walls/ has the latest case law
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Option 3 : Delete your FB profile, and live peacefully ever after 😀
18Pay or not. They will still sell your data
14They don't even try to claim they'll stop collecting your data. No one actually cares about seeing a targeted vs non-targeted advertisement; the targeting technology is the issue.
Paying Facebook $14 a month and still being tracked, just invisibly, solves nobody's problem.
14Giving them payment information makes it even easier to track you too.
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I choose option three.
To fully delete your Facebook account, you would need to go through Facebook's account deletion process. I can guide you through the steps:
- Click on the account menu down arrow at the top right of any Facebook page in your web browser.
- Select 'Settings & Privacy', then click 'Settings'.
- Look for the 'Your Facebook Information' section.
- Click on 'Deactivation and Deletion'.
- Choose 'Permanently Delete Account', then click 'Continue to Account Deletion'.
- Follow the instructions to confirm the deletion.
Remember that once your account is deleted, it cannot be recovered. If you wish to keep the data, make sure to download a copy of your information before deleting your account.
If you're logged in, you can directly go to the deletion page using this link: Delete My Account
Just copy and paste the URL into your web browser's address bar. Note that you may need to log in to Facebook again to access this page.
13The deletion isn't automatic/immediate if I recall correctly? If you accidentally log in within 30 days, they cancel deletion automatically.
4As I understand it, even after that they keep your data, just you can't access it anymore.
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I choose death.
13Well, the third option is there too and seems the best: don't use Facebook/meta at all.
13Does anyone still even use Facebook? Aside from boomer parents? TikTok, not THAT'S a data mining platform!
9For me, it's the main means of communication both for family, friends, hobbies and even work!
5Quite a few people I know ranging in age from 20s to 40s do. There isn't really a replacement with its defining characteristics:
- One-to-many blog-like posts
- Mostly for interactions between people who actually know each other
- Most people have an account and at least occasionally check it
It's that last point nothing else can match. If I post something to Facebook, most people I know have a chance of seeing it. Five people I actually know follow me on Mastodon.
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This is more than likely illegal in the EU...
9As far as I know they are only doing it in EU as a response to a new law the EU had enforced on them.
0It's not a new law. The GDPR has been around for years, but meta only recently lost a legal case saying that they cannot contractually force users to provide their data in exchange for access to the service.
But the GDPR also says consent has to be freely given, some interpet this as meaning that forcing people to pay in order for their data not to be used for ads is not freely given consent.
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I choo-choo-choose uBlock Origin.
8You should delete your account as mentioned here. The second step is creating a new account and pretending you're under 18. It will be free without targeted ads.
Repeat the process periodically.
6To add more context to it -
Meta is actually trying to
complycircumvent EU's strict privacy policy.Recently, The EU's top court said in July that Meta must first get consent before showing ads to users - a ruling that jeopardises the company's ability to make money by tailoring advertisements for individual users based on their online interests and digital activity.
5But it's not ads in general I personally am opposed. It's the fact that they have removed the option to show untargeted ads. I personally don't mind ads but now they force either parsonalized ads or subscription
It was not their livelihood that was at stake, but the potential for more profit
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Well, your decision to finally leave that hellhole is overdue then.
4The statement reads well, and I'll take them at their word, but if an algorithm exists to show you "relevant" content, they're collecting data and using it keep you on the platform.
This has been my issue with 'social media' for the past ten(?) years. As soon as Instagram switch the default from chronological to what it thinks you want to see, it's continued to be more and more shitified (so much that I no longer use it).
The beauty of the early days of social media was that it was real-time. I could see who was doing what right now. I could see what establishments were hosting events tonight. Instead, these platforms decided it was more to their benefit to show posts it thinks will keep you on the platform longer - to show you more ads. For me, this lead to finding out days later that things have happened I would have like to have done.
Wall Street run Social Media is garbage. Businesses, organizations, governments, etc., need to go back to publishing content on their own websites (or the Fediverse) and enabling RSS feeds.
2This is more than likely illegal in the EU...
2Oh my God you have to pay for a service you use?
The scandal! The outrage! The horror!
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