True

And “they” are fine with this.

The typical FOX News watcher assumes that criminals are bad guys by character, are caught red-handed and identified by a perfect means of detection, and still dress like The Hamburglar.

So no, they do not understand that a robust due process is the right of any given suspect before they are even fined (though a one-year sentence is usually the bar for a mandated jury trial, depending on the state / county), and this is a controversy in the US because a lot of people are not afforded their full rights, or are often coerced into surrendering rights by law enforcement who is more interested in putting a warm (brown-skinned) body in jail than actually seeing justice done.

In this era, no one is asking exactly whom CECOT is supposed to be imprisoning. Here in the US, our death row inmates are treated better, and US prisons are notoriously squalid for industrialized nations. CECOT is Edgar Allen Poe caliber cruel-and-unusual incarceration for tens of thousands who are allegedly worse than the people the US would execute.

Mara Salvatrucha members don't deserve CECOT incarceration. Tren de Aragua members don't deserve CECOT incarceration. So who was thinking what when the CECOT facility was built?

And then we're sending people there for life who have mere visa infractions -- a grossly disproportionate sentence -- and the US is skipping the hearing before a judge.

So yeah, congratulations, United States, you've become one of the worst offenders of human atrocity... again.

it's okay to me because it helps with some phrasing on how to explain it. lots of fellas don't get it. I usually tell the homeless guys I talk to due process/habeas corpus means you deserve your day in court, no matter what you done or didn't

The politicians know what they're doing.

This is directed at the voters parroting what the tv told them to

I agree that they know exactly what they're doing but the argument they put forward is a simple one for likes and thumbs up:

Do you want an MS13 gang member in the country?

And the answer has to be:

Are you sure they're an MS13 member? Let's be sure because that's important or innocent people will suffer.

Otherwise, any political opponent is subject to deportation without examination. That means you.

You should watch newer political debaters that invite average trump supports up on livestreams to argue on issues like this. A majority of them dont even understand due process.

Legislators? Sure. Constituents? Probably not.

anyone supporting it is a radical left terrorist who hates Jews, conservatives, babies, God, America, and the constitution*

FTFY

It is the point. And they also know that -probably- no one will stop them from doing it.

The democrats are too slow, or corrupt. Or showboating.
Or all of the above.
And the populace are too lazy and complacent.

The hilarious thing for me looking from the outside is that the us has been overtaken by a failed reality TV star. Who is a convicted felon. Who is a rapist, with a record of over 20 different women accusing him of assault, then there's also the many visits to convicted paedo Epsteins island to think about. Who also bankrupted many casinos. Who paints himself orange!!
Then there's the decades of blatant racism. The cherry on top is the -very obvious- treasonous documents scandal...a fax machine next to boxes of stolen top secret documents? Yeah, that's perfectly normal in this day and age...

Christ on a penny farthing, if I wrote a novel about any one of these things 15 to 20 years ago I'd have been crucified. Now it's just one person doing it all, and being cheered on.

It's comically terrifying. And I wish some people would do something about him and his cronies.

It is getting dangerous even if you are a citizen.

I saw videos where people (not immigrants) were harassing ICE. They usually get high on power, so make them hate their jobs.

It's how anyone should act when they see ICE, TBH.

I'm usually against any kind of violence, but your reason is hard to counter point.

Yeah, I used to explain it to people by having them imagine watching someone rob a bank, and ask them if that person is guilty. They'd always say yes, and I'd explain that they're actually not: doing the crime isn't how someone becomes guilty, being found guilty in the court of law is how someone becomes guilty. That often got people to at least understand what the phrase "innocent until proven guilty" really meant, which I thought was enough. Turns out I should've also explained why that's actually a good thing, because now they're supporting just bypassing the court of law altogether.

Only for the wealthy

We're already terrorists and child predators when you ask the right pundit. It's a short step to just assuming someone is criminal by fiat and then to purging them, either to mass prisons or mass graves.

That’s pretty neat!