US men are dying much earlier than women, as death 'gender gap' widens: Study

They talk about a few things, but this is the gist of it for anyone who doesn't want to click:

Researchers cited the pandemic as the biggest factor in the widening gender gap; it took a heavier toll on men. Unintentional injuries and poisonings (mostly drug overdoses), accidents and suicide were other contributors.

i wonder if this is correlated with the loneliness increase / the loneliness gap. if you're a guy, lonely, prone to depression, in a crumbling post-capitalist society that's getting more malignant by the day....how much will to live can you have

The fact that so many men are dying young should be it's own issue, full stop. There is no reason to try to start a competition over it, or to try to force the topic to change to something else. This IS important, and it should be treated as such. Gain some empathy.

Did women get the rights to vote and wear pants just because they secretly wanted to? No. They fought against the standards of the time, and they had support from other groups. They didn't have that support just because of their genetics, but also because other people had some goddamned empathy. We need to move past the "fuck you, I got mine" as a society if we EVER want things to be good overall. Nothing really excludes you from doing that, at least not if you actually care about others. I don't even really care if someone has a damned disco ball down there, it's horrible that people feel the NEED to live in a way that cuts their life short.

If you hear that a large group of people is dying young, the correct response is to figure out why, and solve it. The correct response is not to turn it into a competition or to blame the people who died so young. The correct response is to try to find a solution, and to possibly literally save lives. You are a bad person if you are happily ok with this going on. If you hate half of the population so badly that you don't care about their death, you have no business telling that population how to live or how to be happy.

It's tragic really. Imo, this is yet another situation where tradition and societal pressures kill people. Don't be miserable to try to make dead people happy. Dead people who cared so little, that they didn't put anything in place to help you in the future. Dead people who only cared about what they personally experienced during their time on earth. Dead people who had a very large hand in causing most of the pain that these people are feeling today.

Dudes reading this, I know it might be difficult depending on where you are, but please check up on your friends. Don't tease them when they open up about serious things, and please listen to them talking about things they love. Change starts with you, and it starts with me. We can make a new future, and we don't have to keep trying to please the people who will never see it.

Try to not be too hard on yourself, you're probably doing the best that you can. Your best might "look like" 20% one day, and 80% the next, but it will still be YOUR 100%. You are only human, and no one is perfect. Please keep up the hobbies that you love, and always look towards better and brighter things. Some days that might be looking forwards to Friday, and other days that might be discovering a new passion. Love unconditionally, and build yourself and others up relentlessly. The odds that you specifically exist are so miniscule that it could almost be considered a miracle.

Even if it might not feel like it today, you are important. You have value. No one else out there has your exact combination of attributes, and only you can fill that role. Even if you're in your 50's, you can still pursue your passions and dreams. Many of the people who poop on your ambitions are people who regret not fulfilling their own. Don't listen to angry people for live advice, as their methods are the best way to stay angry.

Please keep doing your best, and best wishes to y'all. It's tough out there and I can't imagine how tough it would feel to go at it alone. Strive for a better tomorrow, and never give up. Giving up is the only way to guarantee that this continues.

Ironic that the thread is about men dying on average younger than women, and the majority of the responses are people completely ignoring that fact and instead just taking an opportunity to negatively stereotype men so they can shit on them collectively.

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Oh good. Another article about men struggling with X. This certainly means that help is coming, right? Right guys?

Has anybody considered that maybe we don't want to live longer?

My entire life, I feel like my only value as a person has been to provide financial benefit to others. There is no passion. There is only obligation.

I've met those obligations. Those obligations required a whole lot of struggle and doing whatever was necessary with no regard to my physical or mental well-being. If at any time I tried to take pause and do something for myself, I was considered loathsome and..favorite zeitgeist buzzword, toxic. Only when I returned to giving all of myself to others was there any tolerance of my existence.

Now in my fifties, I'm tired. I don't mean I'm I need a nap tired. I mean it at an existential level.

I refuse to spend my remaining years in doctors offices as they systemically extract every remaining dollar I've got while telling me I'm a terrible person for not living a perfectly physical life. I'll choose the early exit and a nice clean estate to leave to my daughter.

When my time comes, I will go quietly into that cold dark void, and I will do so enthusiastically. I see no value in prolonging the inevitable merely for the benefit of others. Let me have this one small thing

I wish the men in my life would visit a doctor, get an annual check up, and take more preventative measures protecting their health.

Yes, but what about those women who have to lose their husbands and sons? They are the real victims.

That's weird. Well, I'm gonna go catch a speeding bullet with my teeth, wish me luck!

It feels like if the issue involves men it is not considered important. Boys struggle in school more now but only girls get attention, young men die to violence more, middle aged men die to suicide more, etc.

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So I’ll be honest and say I have no want to prolong my life any longer than I absolutely have to. I have a myriad of mental issues, no plans to start or have a family and in general very little want to live another 50ish years.

I think that’s not uncommon in a lot of men either. There’s very little incentive to make it that long anymore. I’ll be working till the day I die and some poor choices in my life up to this point have put a significant damper on what’s left.

As long as men are going to be the ones having to do the grunt work, having to be the one to bring in the money and do the dangerous jobs, this will never change.

Unfortunately, most people don't want that to change.

That’s fine. My job as a man is to die first. Is that toxic masculinity? Yes. Is it stupid? Also yes. But I’d rather die on my lawnmower than acknowledge feelings. I will go out 6 years early like a man.

I’m a bit concerned about using the “gender gap” term. As in, I wonder if it’s going to get adopted by misogynists to pit women’s suffering (gender pay gap) against men’s suffering (gender lifespan gap).

Really? In a country where there is a resturante that is called "heartattack" and a healtcare system that is called "unamerican"? I can't fathom how this is possible.

One of the factors where feminists don't insist on equality...

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