Robbers pretending to be ICE agents

American cops have been robbers for a long, long time under the guise of civil forfeiture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_forfeiture_in_the_United_States

You are very lucky if they stop with casual theft.

Lavrentiy Beria, the head of the secret police in Stalin's USSR was a serial rapist and murderer. He had at least hundreds women and children kidnapped off the street, both people who weren't missed but also celebrities, and raped them and then murdered them if they wouldn't pretend it was consensual. A pile of bones covered with lime was uncovered near his one-time residence 15 years ago, but contemporary testimonies say that his torture chamber of a basement had underground passages to other burial sites.

Once some people are above the law, nothing is off the table.

It’s naïve to think that this behavior hasn’t been common already for decades, likely centuries

Maybe everyone should become an ice agent...what would they do then if everyone was larping

As a non-American this is really one of the weirdest things about ICE. Why don’t they do their raids in uniform/with badge and face uncovered (perhaps apart from tactical headgear) like any other law enforcement agency? Even when arresting terrorists/mobsters you would expect the cops to be identifiable.

Yeah i was just going to say, its not like theyre tracking these things, so isnt it more likely he just is an actual ICE officer?

It’s already been happening, it’s documented in this Afroman song Edit: 3:50 timestamp

Same diff if all they have to do to is say they are

Either way, this person is incredibly ballsy and an absolute genius, especially if they just leave with the money and don't actually take anyone (to avoid kidnapping charges).

All you gotta do is go to your van to "get an evidence bag" or "handcuffs", then start the engine and drive off. By the time they realize that you're never coming back for the zip tied person, you're already hid the van and swapped outfits several miles away from the crime scene.

I saw zero indications that ICE agents weren't criminals before this.

I don't see how that absolves them of being criminals. We should ship them to El Salvador and sort out the good ones later.

This is something I've thought about a lot. Obviously this is not legal advice, don't try this shit based on this comment. Say a cop shows up to your door with a warrant and says "Let me in to search your house." How the fuck am I supposed to react to this? If a cop asks to search something, you should always say no (unless there's some sort of implied consent like breathalyzers in Georgia for drivers). But if they have a warrant, how do I even know it's a real warrant? I'm not a legal expert. I don't wanna sound like a sovereign citizen type who believes random words make you immune to things but I feel like the proper thing to do is say something like "I don't consent, but I'm not resisting." Then just stand there. Don't close the door, but don't open it more either.

Like imagine a vampire. Right? They can only come in if they're invited. As humans we use certain phrases to make orders sound like requests to be polite. I used to get in trouble with my mom as a kid because of it. She'd say things like "Please do X" and I'd protest saying because she's saying please it's like she's asking, not telling. That's not necessarily the best example of it, but it helps demonstrate the point. "Let me do X" is sort of a request to be given permission to do X without actually asking to do X. If they have a warrant, why ask at all? Why not just come in?

Idk, I pray that I'm never in a situation like this.

Starting yesterday?

The meaningful difference is the relief felt by this poor woman when she discovered she was just being robbed, not deported.

It's actually really easy to cosplay as ICE too.

Face mask. Cheap jacket. Fake ass vest.

I’m gonna pretend to be an ice agent and go into a McDonald’s and order a McFlurry and pay for my it and say thank you and eat in the lobby and clean up my mess and leave and never mention I’m an ice agent.

Jesus if we could even get this to happen one time that would be just so perfect

maybe if they robbed a bank that Trump owed/owes money to.

or they are one in the same, ooh.

For all we know, this guy is active duty ICE and just robbing people in his free time.

You can tell because he was competent, patient and professional.

Oh no, Your Honor, you don't understand, that guy on lemmy said I could do it

Only if you want to spend the rest of your life dead or in prison.

It’s a lovely thought, but ICE has the entire weight of the government behind them.

Yeah, I mean how do we know for sure this wasn't actually an ICE agent? Because ICE said he wasn't? Why would I trust those assholes?

"We're seizing this money as evidence!"

Wait until the purge to do it, then you're not breaking the law.

And wearing a mask to hide your identity while performing your job function is pretty sus.

Low key?

I mean, sure that would be a nice fringe benefit of police reform.

But this was only possible because of the terror police inspire by their mere presence. Nobody is willing to fight back against this guy for fear he's an actual officer. Nobody has any faith in the Real Police (assuming this guy wasn't actually a cop who decided to moonlight as a robber) finding and stopping this guy.

It isn't as though the crook couldn't have slapped a "Hi I'm Jim_" name tag on his chest and done the exact same thing. You have to believe knowing the officer's identify would result in some consequence to the owner of the gear in order to see that as a material benefit.

Yeah its defintely shoot on sight for ice, people CAN'T tell if they are safe and a jury of their peers would let them walk.

Considering ICE are already criminals, there isn't much to distinguish in the first place.

ICE deserves to be attacked, on sight.

Did you not read the article that was attached? Multiple outlets in Philadelphia reported this incident.

We literally can not

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You could get a group going and just hit a few targets in the city tangentially nearby that you know have money. Just go wallet and bling size, not color wise. Then move on to a new city next weekend. Could probably get away with it a few times before the heat, maybe longer if you are target selective.

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too many people on this site cheer when it’s masked “protesters” robbing businesses

Conservatives: "Y'all are cheering the rioters and looters. We'll never support that."

Progressive: waves a picture of a cop smashing a window, burning a car, and shooting a passerby without so much as a warning

Conservative: "How dare you?! HOW DARE YOU!! You just hate the police and want the looters to win!!! I hope the police arrest you and send you to a death camp!!!"

Liberal: "Okay, everyone calm down. Mr conservative, I'm sorry the progressive upset you like that. I also don't like rioters and looters. Let's talk about how we can find common ground."

"oh my, some people used the chaos of the police breaking up lawful protesters to loot stores, surely the solution is to never protest authoritarian overreach ever again." Go clutch your pearls somewhere else fucko.