Huge turnout for Budapest Pride despite Orban's threats and the official ban

When you start as a good person, you likely end up a good politician (with ethics and values that benefit your people).

Most politicians start as bad people, and just become worse.

Genuine question: do you think eliminating Orban from the political scene will seriously change things?

I lived in Hungary and interact often with Hungarian expats and I have a very negative outlook if no real cultural change is enacted.

As you say, the countryside people are just like Italian and even Danish ones, and served propaganda daily, but the level of nationalism I experienced in Hungary from almost all sides of the political spectrum tells me there is something deeper at play.

Pretty sure he's biodegradable

Got me...LOL...+1

It's just George Soros, all the way. Different genders, clothing, but still just Soros

The 1% is a lot more people than I realized.

Is this the "gray" march I heard of, weeks ago?

Me three

Maybe the “szív szív lapát”(—>hearth hearth shovel, referring to a hearth shaped shovel implying what is awaiting Fidesz members)

Closest I got is 'bojler eladó', but it is nowhere near as heartening as what Ukraine's got.

For urban exploring I would recommend Székesfehérvár (crowning city of the past empire)

For tracking I personally love the Bükk mountains

For bathing and relaxing I would recommend Hévíz

-The question is now not whether Tisza, the largest opp party, is going to win (independent analysis measured 51% for Tisza and 34(?)% for Fidesz, while the government stopped posting their analysis for some stramge-inexplicable reason) but if Fidesz is going to relinquish the power! I personally very much doubt that we won’t need to have a civil war, a short one as apparently as no one really supports Fidesz anymore -While undoubtedly such a demagogue would have and has its base in the less educated parts of the country, another stronger reason is that the former oppositionary parties abandoned the countryside(everything outside of the capital) for an actually unexplainable reason! Peter Magyar, leader of Tisza, was proclaimed a genius by independent media for doing the obvious thing: doing nationwide tours… -One of the largest points of the pride march was a dare for the gov to enforce its ruling banning our rights of protest! Most people probably didn’t attend to stand in solidarity of the non-conventional sexes; as last year only 35k attended while this year it was between 200-500k

Eh, Viktor’s continuous rein can be thanked to a multitude of reasons, amongst which voter fraud will undoubtedly turn out to be whenever those files become public! But the gist of it is:

-He took over at a time political chaos, when the coalition parties (which won almost every election until then) of the left sabotaged themselves to get rid of their leader, Ferenc Gyurcsány, who in turn sabotaged his party and coalition. From the chaos Viktor emerged with absolute mandate (over 51% of the votes) and immediately used to gerrymander the country to the point when in the last election cycle he received over 70% of parliamentary seats with only 43% of the votes! -He also made the parliament right of overseeing public constructions useless (he made donations to sport teams a legit expense), the laundered money then found its way back to the party which was used to buy out every TV news channel. Giving them the power to largely control the narrative. -But perchance the largest reason was, that until now we didn’t really have a leader of the opposition! The before mentioned endless funds were used to buy the rising political leaders or their teams, and the before mentioned news empire was used to destroy the reputation of any contendor. Peter Magyar, the now leader of the largest opposition party, is kinda foolproof in this way as he was the past husband of the former minister of justice (Varga Judit)! Virtually being a party member until very recently gives him the armor of:”Your former party member did whaaaat?”, limiting the Fidesz-s ability to fabricate a proper hate campaign ag his name

Also from mine, unfortunately the "left" from my country is useless.

You point that out now, and it's glaringly obvious. But somehow, when I'm writing down my thoughts, it doesn't even pop my mind that something is badly phrased.

Remember you said "serious question", so you'lk get a serious answer.... It's just the whole energy of it all. I don't like it when people go "look at me, I deserve to be seen". I get it, it's about human rights and whatnot, but I just don't like it. It makes me extremely uncofortable. To me it's the same when someone in restaurant starts making a scene because something didn't go the way they want. I don't mean the entitlement, of course, but the confidence and the publicity of it all. It's the complete polar opposite of who I am.

I mean, you do you, fine by me, but you're gonna have to do it without me.

But not in this case. There's a real emergency in Hunagry that needs to be protested and a pride parade is a very appropriate way to do it. So I would attend this one, if I had the means and oppertunity to do that.

I’m just browsing “All”. Didn’t pay attention to the group The US did have some huge (for the US) rallies but nothing the size Europe has