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Joe Biden is facing a near-historic deficit for an incumbent

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Joe Biden is facing a near-historic deficit for an incumbent | CNN Politics

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- Political polls don't mean anything for the average person, anyway. They are only useful for the PACs trying to figure out strategies and for the political scientists analyzing social behavior.
- Okay but the last round of election polls which had nationwide results to check against were historically accurate.
  https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/2022-election-polling-accuracy/
  Unless you think everyone under 40 decided to stop answering their phones after the midterms?
- I wonder if there's a skew from polls from factors that make someone under 40 more or less likely to answer a strange number.
LOL, misleading headline. Trump was the incumbent last presidential election and his deficit was twice as high.
- "Near-Historic". Since they started keeping records, only TWO incumbent Presidents have been behind 1 year out from the election... Trump and Biden.
I hate this fucking country sometimes.
- Only sometimes?
  
  Less and less but I'll always love the PNW despite all of the white supremacists.
I feel people in this thread are missing the point somewhat.
Trump is not a viable candidate. He shouldn't be anywhere near contention. Anything that isn't an absolute wipeout here is a major threat. I don't care what the polls say. People need to start working on this now and treat this as an existential threat until January 2025 at least. If you need motivation, keep an eye on the news in Argentina.
- I can kinda understand where you're coming from but, dude, at least try reading the article.
It's either historic or it's not. There is no such thing as "near-historic". Mainstream media needs a reeducation.
- It's historic save for Trump, so "near-historic" makes sense.
Polls have been completely garbage since 2019.
Member the "Red Wave"?
- Did you read the article? The only other time an incumbent has polled below their opponent 1 year from election was.... Donald Trump in 2019. Who lost to Biden. Just like the polls showed.
  
  Democrats have consistently been beating the polls at the ballot box by 9+ points since Roe vs. Wade was overturned.
  Pollsters are currently either trying to craft a narrative by polling known respondents or they simply no longer know how to poll in a post- Roe v Wade USA.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
We use words like “may” and “could” to make sure we don’t get too far ahead of ourselves – especially when examining polls of a potential 2024 general election matchup between Joe Biden and Donald Trump.
This makes Biden just the second president since scientific polling began to trail in his reelection bid at this point in the campaign.
This is notable because a number of Democrats have tried to dismiss the current data showing Biden in trouble by saying that Obama had been behind at this point, too.
I’m talking about a lead in any national poll that meets CNN’s standards for publication over the entire 2020 cycle.
Specifically, that Biden is having issues with his party’s left wing, as reflected by the loud criticism of his handling of the Israel-Hamas war.
Consider the New York Times/Siena College polls released earlier this month from the six closest states Biden won: Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Nevada and Michigan.
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