1w ago

'I won't humiliate myself': Brazil's president sees no point in tariff talks with Trump

www.straitstimes.com

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1w ago

'I won't humiliate myself': Brazil's president sees no point in tariff talks with Trump

www.straitstimes.com /world/i-wont-humiliate-myself-brazils-president-sees-no-point-in-tariff-talks-with-trump

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I wish all world leaders had balls like this. Fuck trump and fuck America under trump.
- Thank you for the qualification that this is 'America under tRump' and not the usual America!
  
  I lived there for 10 years and have a lot of fond memories of the place. It's always had its problems, but it's always been an amazing country in a lot of ways. But I got to see the Obama years and the growth of the tea party and this was always coming. I'm convinced that leaving when I did is the best decision I've ever made for myself and my family, and I really feel for all the people who are stuck there with this insane death cult.
The Trump presidency is eroding the international US standing at a pace that leave me speechless. He is shooting in the foot all the US historical allies and enemies alike. Even Europe is slowly distancing itself from US, that was unfathomable a decade ago.
- The US sets the pace, and the EU has no choice but to react at that pace. In Trumps world view there are no allies, only exploitable resources and enemies. International relations erode quickly when souvereign countries are threatened to either bend the knee or be treated as an enemy.
- Trump basically got done what Putin never was able to do. They got the EU to agree on stuff and prepare for military actions agains Russia. The EU has this was up call that we can't bet our safety and future on an American (NATO) promise that might be only a promise.
Thank you sir for doing what should be done. Don't engage the geriatric orange toddler.
There is no downside for Lula on this move.
Trump is launching this war to protect Bolsonaro (Lula’s rival who was convicted of trying to overthrow the election).
The Brazilians who support Bolsonaro are the same people who will be hurt by this trade war.
Fucking bravo. Why talk to an insufferable cunt?
- Unlike China Brazil doesn't have as much leverage, but taco showed us that over and over again that even if you surrender he will still hurt you.
  Japan is example. During his first term they accepted unfair deal hoping that won't have to worry about it and he still hurt them.
  Domestically people and institutions see the same, for example UCLA bent the knee, and right now there's article he still cut research grants to them.
  Sad thing is that still almost no one seen to learn from mistakes from others, they think that perhaps they are special and things will be different.
  
  Same for Europe, negotiated to buy billions in weapons to get 15% tariffs, then a week later he threatens 35%.
  Fuck that
  Brasil top exports is oil, minerals, sugar and coffee.
  The first two can easily find a market somewhere else, while can Americans live without sugar and coffee?
This is the way.
- Yeah but it shouldn't have to be
  
  Americans decided it should be

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