Code inspector goes to house over tall grass complaints; resident has mental health crisis and points gun at inspector; cops come in armored vehicle and shoot resident to death
Muskogee police release body camera video of officer-involved shooting
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/34311432
I feel safer knowing this long-grass-having criminal scum is finally off the streets for good.
Americans: My right to private property is guaranteed by constitution! Unlike those communist countries, I can do with my land as I please!
America: Has lawn inspectors. Also enforces having a lawn in front of your house.
Yeah, getting fined or ticketed for having your grass "too long" is ridiculous. I had to deal with this while pet sitting for some people who were just moving in to a house that had been unnoccupied. There was no one there to even cut the grass because they were packing up their old house in a different state.
How else could you resolve a dispute about lawn care? Now excuse me. My neighbor's flower bed is looking a little unkempt…
Just normal lawn complaints stuff.
That's interesting. I would have figured sending a tank would de-escalate the situation.
Fuck a duck. I live in Oklahoma and haven't mow my front yard in a month. To goddamn hot to be outside doing manual labor. No ones said shit. Plus I try avoid mowing altogether. We began see fireflies at night, and rather have wild flowers then a well maintained lawn. ACAB. Killed a man over not .mowing his grass. What bullshit. And you know it was some nosey neighbor probably sames ones quoted that called code enforcement on him.
To be fair to the pigs, they killed a man for pulling a gun on the nosey neighbor patrol. They wouldn't have bothered to shoot him over the grass... Unless they felt like it at the time.
Hey gotta justify their existence amirite
Soon they'll do it remotely, via drones.
I don't understand HOAs having so much control over people's property.
Where I live if you live somewhere that has rules about how the exterior of a place looks, it's part of a strata and you pay monthly fees and the strata pays for landscapers to come in and mow everyone's lawns, repaint people's houses, repair the roof, clean the eaves trough, etc.
Seems so backwards that you just own your home outright but if you don't maintain it properly someone can just fine you. Take care of it yourselves then and leave me out of it.
California just passed a bill that caps HOA fines at $100 per offense. (iirc). Meaning if you want to paint the house purple and the HOA doesnt allow it, you pay the $100 fine and move on. It is effectively going to completely neuter HOAs.
Does that law prevent reoccurring fines too? Otherwise it's just going to be 100 dollars for each week your house is purple.
I looked it up, it's here
Relevant section on the fines:
SEC. 3. Section 5850 of the Civil Code is amended to read:
- (a) If an association adopts or has adopted a policy imposing any monetary penalty, including any fee, on any association member for a violation of the governing documents, including any monetary penalty relating to the activities of a guest or tenant of the member, the board shall adopt and distribute to each member, in the annual policy statement prepared pursuant to Section 5310, a schedule of the monetary penalties that may be assessed for those violations, which shall be in accordance with authorization for member discipline contained in the governing documents. Monetary penalties shall be reasonable.
- (b) Any new or revised monetary penalty that is adopted after complying with subdivision (a) may be included in a supplement that is delivered to the members individually, pursuant to Section 4040.
- c A monetary penalty for a violation of the governing documents shall not exceed the lesser of the following:
-- (1) The monetary penalty stated in the schedule of monetary penalties or supplement that is in effect at the time of the violation.
-- (2) One hundred dollars ($100) per violation.- (d)
-- (1) Notwithstanding subdivision c, the board may impose a penalty stated in the schedule of monetary penalties or supplement that is in effect at the time of the violation that is greater than one hundred dollars ($100) per violation, if the violation may result in an adverse health or safety impact on the common area or another association member’s property.
-- (2) Before imposing a penalty on a violation pursuant to this subdivision, the board shall make a written finding specifying the adverse health or safety impact in a board meeting open to the members.- (e) A late charge or interest shall not be charged to a member for a monetary penalty.
- (f) An association shall provide a copy of the most recently distributed schedule of monetary penalties, along with any applicable supplements to that schedule, to any member upon request.
So... yeah I still don't know unfortunately.
Edit: Formatting, c turns into (c) by default, lol
Where I live if you live somewhere that has rules about how the exterior of a place looks, it’s part of a strata
Fuck stratas too. Mine refuses to let us install mini split air conditioners because the outdoor condensers are "ugly" and "makes this nice Canadian townhouse complex look like one of those shithole commieblocks from China" (they actually didn't say that but someone on Reddit once did in defense of stratas and that pisssd me off so much). They don't even let us change the windows from swing out style to the sliding type that can support window air conditioners, instead we're stuck using portable air conditioners which are the least energy efficient type. So in a place where AC was not necessary until very recently due to climate change, and there are worse heat waves every year that go beyond uncomfortable to putting people at risk of heat stroke, they're worried about the aesthetics of the complex over the health of the people in it.
Our strata even got pissy at us for putting a blanket over the window to reflect the sunlight. Can't do passive cooling either.
Why are people complaining about grass heights, and why is there a person whose job it is to care? And why is this a violation of anything?(I know the answers, please don’t respond pedantically)
Here's hoping that all the people involved in this death have a hard time sleeping for the rest of their miserable lives.
From the person that complained in the first place, the inspector, that whole office, and all the cunting officers that attended. Bunch of fucking arseholes.
Apart from that, peace and love from Australia.
in free democracies you get a tank sent to kill you for having an unkept lawn
That is insanity. Meanwhile I sit in my backyard right now that is so overgrown I can barely see my large dog... I should probably be shot too. They brought a tank to a code enforcement situation.
My back yard:
Yeah come check out my back yard. Hell my front yard is overgrown no one said shit to me.
I saw a few random patches on that lawn that had blades as high as 15cm!!
Maybe they can kill him again!
That's why we don’t let any random person buy guns
I believe in every American's right to own a 25mm cannon. Keeps the Bearcats away.
That is how you get killed in self defence
Somehow I doubt the grass is gonna get cut now
But did they mow the grass?
/s
While I'm usually the first to say "Fuck the Police", this one looks like just a sad situation all around, but was probably ultimately justified.
Code enforcement guy came to the house to ask about the lawn, and resident pointed gun at code enforcement guy and told him he couldn't leave. Code dude calls the police because he has a gun pointed at him and can't flee. Police show up in armored vehicle because someone is threatening to shoot a government employee, get shot at, and return fire.
Did the guy deserve to die because he was having a mental health breakdown? No. But sometimes it isn't about what is deserved. Guy was threatening someone with a gun, wouldn't let them leave, then started shooting at people. Police can't let that continue.
Yeah "mental health crisis" is doing a whole lot of work here and basically sounds like cop-speak checking boxes to justify killing a guy. But personally, it might just be my prejudice, but this guy comes off as a suburb brained chud. A guy took a picture of his house which activated his constitutional sheriff castle doctrine so he had to kidnap him at gunpoint.
And the rest of this thread are lower level libertarian brains acting like he got shot for his lawn. So the cycle continues.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Cops simply don't work.