She's an epic actress though
She's an epic actress though
She's an epic actress though
She’s just the best at being the worst.
Marc Alaimo was great but I think Louise gets the crown. Her cloying malevolence was just so believable. Everyone knows someone like that in their life, it's the same reason Umbridge worked so well in Harry Potter. The fake nice person.
Dukat on the other hand is just plain evil. Sure they tried to make him more relatable with Ziyal but in the end he was just an evil asshole, not many layers.
Gul Dukat was Voldemort, but Kai Winn was Delores Umbridge.
I loved to hate Louise Fletcher's characters. Nobody did it better.
If they just started watching wouldn't they call her Vedek Winn? She isn't elected Kai until almost season 3.
They're just really fast at binging Star Trek.
That user watching trek like:
Louise Fletcher played her so well! She made Winn easy to hate. Awesome actress!
She is one of the best characters though. That doesn't mean she's likable but she creates conflict which is interesting/entertaining.
You are absolutely correct! If you want engagement post a Kai Winn meme 😂
That's one sore spot for every one, even people who are long time lurkers on any platform will have an opinion on that character. I myself would normally just have a sensible chuckle, or a brief exhalation of amusement...but when anyone brings up Kai Winn, I too must voice my opinion
100% It reminds me of the piece of shit kid from The Strain. Even having me hate them is an achievement. Having a person actually feel or care strongly about a character is not easy to do.
Now I'm trying to come up with a show involving only likeable characters.
Just brave heroes, funny sidecharacters and hot villains.
Nurse Rat Shit! She really is phenomenal at portraying unbearable characters.
She is one of my favorite characters, too. She's one of the best most vile repulsive idiotic and self-righteous characters in TV history.
She's so interesting too, because she does genuinely believe that her actions are for the good of Bajor. I don't know if this makes her sanctimonious air better or worse
Yep, that's what I meant by self-righteous. And idiotic.
"You're risking civil war...over a couple of soil reclamators."
She made a career of it. Back in the 70s, she won an Oscar for the equally evil Nurse Ratched in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: we need an episode of Celebrity Deathmatch between Kai Winn and Delores Umbridge
Winn Adami is in the running for best Star Trek villain of all time.
Yeah but the top three spots are taken...
The top 50 is somehow all Jeffrey Combs
She's my favorite story in The Lion, The Witch, And The Audacity Of This Bitch.
You loved to hate her.
from a "oh my god she does so good in that role", yeah i see it. she's so hateable. i can see actors enjoying watching louise fletcher, i mean i do and i have a little community theater experience even though i'm not that great.
my favorite character is odo though. love rene.
Garak, Quark, and Odo were my top 3 (not in that order). I always enjoyed a good Garak episode, but the episode where Quark thinks he's finally out-witted Odo, when Odo had booked the holo-suite for his anniversary with Nerys was one of my favourites
This is a time when the difference between "good" and "well" are important. She did well.
Good Boy
She's the Umbridge of DS9
You have that backwards.
For other "fun" sci-fi Louise Fletcher roles, check out Invaders From Mars, Strange Invaders, and Brainstorm.
If your favorite character isn't Morn then you aren't a real fan. That Morn, he'll talk your ear off!
Do we have better words to distinguish between a fictional character and the in-universe character? As in, I really hate the in-universe character Kai Winn, which is why I really love the fictional character of Kai Winn.
Canon/fanon?
I feel like that relates more to official/fanfiction.
She was a big part of the show. Just little more than half evil.
Why do you have such a strong reaction, my child?
eyetwitch
I can still hear the condescension in that statement. I don't think I've had such a strong reaction to any character on any TV show or movie in (checks watch) jfc 30+ years
Greetings, fellow geezer! They just don't make them like this any more.