13-year-old who appeared to idolize school shooters arrested, 23 guns seized in his home
Police say they seized 23 guns from the home of a 13-year-old who appeared to idolize mass shooters
Stop allowing children to have guns. Thank you for your attention to this mater.
Stop allowing anyone to have kids guns
Thank you for your attention to this matter
A dozen generations of American children grew up learning to hunt and shoot targets without significant incidents. School shootings only became epidemic post-9/11, or maybe the late 90s if you stretch the definition. Guns are dangerous but there's more happening here than a direct causal relationship.
Wealth inequality is higher. Education is waning. Food security is a big problem. Limiting access to guns is a solution but it isn’t the root issue for sure.
Things shifted when guns became less of a tool and more of a cool thing.
It took one generation for my family to only have hunting rifles they used in the house… to collecting various guns just because they can.
Yeah, grew up around guns and always had easy access to them. I also grew up learning gun safety for as long as I can remember. One of my earliest memories is my grandfather teaching me how to handle the bb gun he bought me for my first Christmas safely and that guns were dangerous and not to be treated as toys.
I also had a terrible time in school and easy access to them if I had wanted to do a school shooting but the thought never even occurred to me. I did get into fights and some of those I instigated but that was all. Something else is wrong with these people that do mass shootings. Gun owners should be keeping them away from unsupervised kids but also there needs to be counseling in place to catch the ones that are prone to violence before they do something. Even if you take every single gun out of circulation violent people will still do violence.
I would suggest not relying on Mater to fix the gun problems. He is an international spy but I don't think he's got the tools to fix this problem..
For fucking real! Like I had a bb gun as a kid and that's it, and that was Florida parents! These people live in Portland and have their 13year old multiple ARs and handguns‽ This investigation into them should not take long.
The boy’s mother, who attended the court hearing, suggested in an interview afterward that the social media posts were an attempt to “be cool” among peers, KOMO-TV reported.
Obviously this is mom's attempt to undersell her child's plans, but I fully believe this has become a legit motive for young shooters. It's hard to fully articulate my theory, but it's something like: the more they rely on social media for self-esteem and validation, the less connected they feel to real-life people and events. They scroll through an endless stream of videos of humiliation, war crimes, pranks, and memes while having fewer of these experiences in real life. For some young people, their greatest achievement is to post a "deviant lick" that goes viral - a shocking inside joke that will label them a "fucking legend." Add in a heavy dose of climate doom and cynical comments like, "Younger generations are totally fucked." If someone feels like they have no future, at least they can grab a gun and blast their anger and despair at some NPCs while livestreaming for one last chance for some online attention.
Yes, it would help if guns are less accessible, but we NEED to be working on the epidemic of social isolation.
I highly recommend the short Netflix series, "Adolescence". Not only is it highly topical and insightful into the areas you mentioned, but they're 45 minute episodes done in one shot. The acting, directing and filmography is incredible.
Ah, it's been at the top of my list forever and I keep forgetting. Thanks for another reminder. I will watch soon!
Good god that was an intense show.
I almost can't believe I made it through the whole thing.
First it was the music, than the video games, now you’re trying to blame video streams?
How about the issue isn’t the fucking media landscape, it’s the family.
now you’re trying to blame video streams?
That's not what the commenter did at all. What he said is that the current social structure for kids is FUCKED and maybe we should be doing something about that. And yes, it should be the family's responsibility, but they're fucked too. This nation has no traditions to fall back on. It has GUNS. That's our thing. freedumb and guns. Social support? "that's gay" and this nation hates gay. Government support? "that's communism." We worship rich white people who for the most part represent violence against anyone who stands in their way. The environment is collapsing, but the people in charge lie to our faces about it. Nobody can afford to go to school, and the people who do are in life-long crippling debt. And these kids, who are raised by their screens and not their parents who are also so self-absorbed that they're trying to make a living as an influencer or whatever, see nothing but despair in their future. What are they going to do for a living when half the jobs are being taken by AI? Leave their suburban home and migrate to the fields to pick raspberries? Kids can't even read properly and their government is taking away what literal education they have. They don't interact in person anymore. It's all Discord and in-game voice. They have no connections anymore. School is the worst because all of the things schools had in previous generations are gone due to budget cuts and teachers who can't afford to do anything but the bare minimum. And even there, the quality of teachers has gone down since the pay is so low. They're not supported by the school board, because those people just want to bring back prayer in school or what the fuck ever pet HOA Karen project they got themselves elected for. Oh and now there's cops in every school terrorizing any child that acts out, regardless if it's maybe and autistic tic or just god forbid, a Bad Day. Living with all of this, being inundated with insanity online from all over the world, having no clue how they're going to navigate the psychosis that is living in the USA in this era, why not go out in a blaze of glory? Some of those shooters had their names remembered. Especially by this particular 13 year old who obsessed over said school shooters. It could be something to aspire to. Help take down this sick, cancer-ridden mockery of a modern society.
But sure, let your take be that they were blaming streaming videos.
I blame the mother. How the fuck do you let your 13 year old child have access to A gun, let alone that arsenal? Maybe a BB gun, or a locked up .22LR long gun to take to the range with a youth shooting group. This was a child that was raised by the Internet, and not parents.
That's too easy and doesn't waste nearly enough money.
Release the Epstein!
A thirteen year old facing four felonies is fucked almost as bad as a thirteen year old having twenty-three guns.
Charge the mother with the felonies and give the kid a chance.
A thirteen year old facing four felonies is fucked almost as bad as a thirteen year old
having twenty-three guns.backstage at a Miss Teen USA beauty contest
FTFY
Lock the mother up
Short of a diagnosis of psychosis or sociopathy that's one hardcore indoctrinated kid. If his mother didn't teach him to hate she sure as hell didn't teach him how to love.
Wonderfully said. I don’t think he learned it from his mother, he probably learned it online while his mother ignored him— or, just never thought to look what her child was doing online, which is a parents responsibility.
But who knows, maybe she’s tied to some crazy right wing organization!
23? Jeez
I don't quite understand why that make such a big deal over the number of them. It's not like they're some 20 armed Hindu god, you can only carry and operate so many at one time.
you don't remember the Vegas shooting incident, do you?
Because it speaks to the mindset of the family. They have better than $20,000 dollars worth of guns and ammo strewn around the house and hanging on the walls as decorations. They are gun fetishists and have clearly passed on that mindset to their child.
The question is how does a 13 year old child have access to 23 guns. At least in the article it makes it sound like they were his. Obviously he shouldn't have access to any*, but the number does bring to focus just how fucked that household is.
*in a healthy household, teaching a child of that age to fire a .22LR long gun at the range is not uncommon or unreasonable. It's traditional. I learned to fire them in summer camp I think at 10 or 11 (granted it was like 1980 or so.)
Probably the same reason the media does most things, it gets clicks. I agree with you though, I know people that have a huge number of guns, but they collect them, and it doesn’t make them any more dangerous than some guy with 2 unless they’re trying to arm a group of people with old hunting rifles and weirdly specific revolvers of all different calibers.
23 and Spree.
Nihilistic psychosis, mother and child and all of American society.
Wow that’s some poor parenting going on.
Ban all guns, period.
That will solve your problems. It solved all the problems for other countries, it will solve the problem here.
For those "from my cold dead hands", well, that can be arranged