22h ago

FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report Says

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15h ago

FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report Says

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19h ago

FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report Says

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22h ago

FBI to Categorize Trans People As "Nihilistic Violent Extremist" Threat Group, Report Says

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If I get Guantanamo’d for being trans I just want to say: I regret nothing and you cannot force the transness out of me in any way that matters.
I already lived through growing up not even knowing what trans was in the deep south. If you want to deadname and misgender me, I already spent more than half my life doing that shit. That’s old territory I rewalk every time I talk to my siblings. I already know what anti-trans people think, nothing they say about trans people is new or surprising. Decades of it did not break me, and neither would being labeled a terrorist over my gender identity.
In summation: 🖕🏳️‍⚧️🖕
- Being a "terrorist" to a fascist state means you're one of the good guys.
- Listen, if I can't be the me I really want to be (a big, muscular and rich womanizer) due my own sheer laziness and lack of discipline, which would not at all impact me socially, economically or politically, then you can't be the you that you deserve to be 😡
Headline is somewhat deceiving. Still very very worrying. The push currently is to define trans advocacy as domestic terrorism, rather then to just outright define all trans people as terrorists. The way they are defining "gender ideology based extremism" is still extremely vague so I could definitely see them gradually extending the (or at least their treatment of the) definition of this.
- The push currently is to define trans advocacy as domestic terrorism, rather then to just outright define all trans people as terrorists.
  How many trans people would not support trans rights? It's easy for them to claim any trans person is an advocate of trans rights and therefore a terrorist. There's no safety margin here.
- Within the FBI:
  Under the plan being discussed, the FBI would treat transgender suspects as a subset of the Bureau’s new threat category, “Nihilistic Violent Extremists” (NVEs). (From Ken Klippensteins report)
  And with the heritage foundation report:
  The document takes pains to insist that the proposal would not label “all transgender individuals” as domestic terrorists. Instead, it claims it would only apply when someone is “motivated by an ideology that encourages, promotes, or condones violence” while “inciting unlawful violent action or threat.” But those qualifiers are deliberately elastic. Given the earlier definition of TIVE, even the most basic act of advocacy—like pointing out that anti-trans laws threaten transgender people’s existence—could be construed as “incitement.” The memo itself makes the danger plain: in its list of “typical characteristics” of supposed extremism, it cites a trans flag with the words “protect their right to exist.” (From erin in the morning)
  
  I have seen lemmy spaces get uncomfortably close to being an NVE. I can see these gloworms going to the most unhappy restless trans space they can find and saying "yup, as we suspected. Ok terrorists, stop marching in our streets" what it says to me is we have people in dark places that need dug out.
  
  Absolutely vile that they can label "protecting rights" as terroristic. Where are all the "don't tread on me"s at??
  
  Trans-MAGA
- Oh good. So as long as I don’t advocate for myself and just roll over, I’m not an extremist? The differentiation here is… tenuous.
  
  Oh yeah of course. Its terrible, I dont disagree. I posted my comments just to ensure there wasn't any misunderstandings.
- Russia did that with anything LGBTQ. Simply waving the pride flag is enough to be arrested over.
- From the article: The group defines “TIVE” as “the belief that violence is justified against people who oppose [the trans community],” as well as the belief that opposing trans rights “itself constitutes a form of violence towards people who identify as [trans or gender nonconforming]... or poses an imminent threat to such persons’ emotional, psychological, or physical safety, including through self-harm or suicide.”
Hello.
I’m a terrorist.
I’m a terrorist because I advocate that all the rich people shouldn’t have all the money, and that all the poor people shouldn’t be slaves.
- Believe it or not, jail
Those handicapable motherfuckers are determined to put us all in the gas chamber. If you can walk, please walk through the forest into Canada and escape. I know you can't necessarily use passports now but there are no border checks in the forest. Or get a friend to smuggle you out in the trunk of their car. Or pay a coyote to take you to Mexico on the return trip.
How can you be a nihilistic violent extremist? Like, real nihilistic people aren't fucking violent because nothing matters, so why bother... right?
- I think the incel or 4channish school shooters would fit that description. They're almost all white cis boys though.
Now I have more words to add to my banner.

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