UK, Canada and Australia announce formal recognition of Palestinian state - live updates
France joins UK, Canada and Australia in recognising Palestinian state
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Russia invades Ukraine. Sanction the fuck out of Russia.
Israel invades Palestine...
Israel always get a free past. The western leaders are so racist and pathetic.
Yeah, you're missing a couple pretty fucking important details in this comparison.
Israel invades Palestine…
If Ukraine invaded Russia first by cutting the breasts off teenage girls at a music festival and the country was run by an islamic jihadi terrorist organisation pretty sure we would have just let Russia invade
Did you miss the part where Russia claims Ukraine is run by Nazis?
The claims are equivalent.
I know it's a cringey, dead meme response, but tell me you don't understand one single thing about the Palestine-Israel conflict without telling me you don't understand one single thing about the Palestine-Israel conflict...
Why don't you talk about the rapes during the nekba, the rape and torture in israeli prisons, the rape and torture in the west bank ? The terrorists operstions by the lehi and haganah etc. Zionists admiting their settler colonialism intention? The one station solutions offers that the plo suggested? The non zionist Yemeni jews tat migrated to palestine and was welvomed by palestinians?
Alternately what if the most egregious claims of sexual violence were made up by the opposing side to justify their overblown response?
I'm not going to fault you for blindly repeating what you may have heard, but you need to know also it may not necessarily be true.
A jihadi terrorist organisation partially sponsored by Israel itself
While selling arms to israel to destroy palestine
Basically this.
"We recognizse Israel's right to invade and destroy the state of Palestine."
Would've been nice if they did this 80 years ago when they started this whole mess
What does this mean? Are there any meaningful implications or are we just stating the obvious? In a world where Palestine has been occupied for over 50 years, and for some reason it isn't legally called annexation, do these designations mean anything?
Will they have formula diplomatic relations? Will Palestinians finally be able to get valid passports?
Here is an Australian Broadcasting Company (Aussie ABC, not to be confused with the US/Disney one), explaining what this all means: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-21/australia-recognises-state-of-palestine-two-state-solution/105799276
I don’t want to miss-state what is in the article, but it is a move in part to distance ourselves from the US position, and to help embolden other nations to also do so. With sufficient international backing (Australia is too small to be able to swing things by itself), recognition of a legitimate Palestinian government would include things such as embassies, passports, trade deals etc.
Unfortunately, although our brains have become desensitised over the past decade by over-the-top political bullshit - this is how things used to be handled in a more civilised time.
I think it's one of those things which technically enables some stuff (embassies or some shit? The reframing of Israel as literally invading another country, rather than committing sins against ppl whose homeland exists but doesn't exist?) but probably won't have much on an impact and is more designed to say 'hehm. Ackshually it is not totally super cool what you guys are doing'. But then we probably continue to sell them components and widgets that ultimately get used in war machines because dude have you seen the way predominantly-English-speaking nations act towards those that aren't? But like I think it as at least something, and will likely have implications of technical legality that make some enablement of Israel more difficult or even impossible as the new setting takes hold. Maybe.
Of course by that time...
But let's hold onto some tiny modicum of hope, because what else is there. Even a teaspoon of water in the desert is better than mouth of sand.
they won't do anything meaninful like put sanctions on israel so it's mainly performative bullshit.
it's just meant as a signal to american establishment politicians that they should maybe stop betting on a losing horse
Very little.
Notice that they haven't actually stated for what is the territory of Palestine, even indirectly by saying it is what was defined in past accords.
Now Israel is possibly an invader on the territory of the sovereign nation of Palestine - only possibly because it depends on what is considered the territory of the nation of Palestine, which this doesn't at all define directly of indirectly - this has created with a massive hole to allow claiming that Israel isn't in fact invading Palestine or at least that it's not clear, because Israel can just say that were they are is not the territory of Palestine whilst Palestinians say it is, and legally it hasn't been clarified who is right.
Now, ask yourself: are these people so incredibly incompetent in the field of diplomacy and international law that they didn't spot this, or is it a case that they designed this "recognition" to be exactly as it is - of the existence of a state without defining its territory, thus with massive holes - on purpose?
Even if Israel was deemed to be "invading Palestine", as far as I know in International Law, "invading a sovereign nation" isn't actual as bad an act as "committing Genocide" and Israel has already been deemed as commiting a Genocide by a number of entities, including the UN and is currently breaking the ICCs order to stop certain activities (though I believe the court hasn't yet rulled on their actions amounting to a Genocide or not, but they had issue orders for Israel to stop certain activities).
Now, if Israel isn't being made by the nations that have now "recognized the state of Palestine" to suffer consequences (for example, sanctions) for the greater crime of "commiting Genocide", how likely it is that these very same nations that refuse to punish Israel for that will now punish Israel for the lesser crime of "invasion of a foreign nation"
Again: remember, this is if they actually recognize Israel's actions as an invasion, and without an accepted definition of what exactly is the territory of the nation of Palestine, they can claim that there is no invasion or (more likely, IMHO) that "it's not clear".
To me this just looks like performative smoke & mirrors from politicians who support Israel whilst the public opinion on their nations is heavilly against Israel and their actions, hence why it makes sense that a nation like Britain which is currently doing surveillance flights over Gaza and giving the data to Israel, as well as arresting old ladies as Terrorism Supporters for demonstrating against the Genocide, woud be part of this - it's de facto an action which doesn't hurt Israel whilst being spinned to the British Public Opinion - that demands that "something must be done about Israel" (there was already a demonstration with 500,000 people about it) - as "something is being done".
The answer is no for all your questions
"what does this all mean?"
"No"
Ok. 🤣
They still claims that it's Hamas who don't want peace and returning the hostages while it's israel who don't want to. Netenyahu refuse any palestinian state even one without hamas and without the right to an army for self defense because he claim it's their land.
They claim to be horrified about what is happening in gaza while not sanctionning israel, lying about stop selling weapons and not acknowledging the genocide
Hamas is a violent terrorist organization, it just happens to also be the only one even remotely attempting to fight back against Israel's attacks. There are no "good guys" in this war (barring the victims just trying to live their lives), just bad and worse. Israel has been attacking Palestine both physically and via illegally seizing their land for decades, while Hamas has been staging terrorist attacks against Israel for just as long. It's hard not to fault the Palestinian people for supporting Hamas when they're the only ones that are doing literally anything to fight back against Israel, but that also doesn't make Hamas good. At best they're a necessary evil.
Hamas doesn't want peace, they want victory, but Israel doesn't want peace either, they want to finish the genocide they started decades ago. The only ones that actually want peace are the civilians that are stuck between Hamas and the IDF. Unlike Hamas though the international community supports the IDF even though the IDF is just as guilty of staging terror attacks as Hamas is.
Hamas sabotaged the Oslo Accords, which were the last viable route to a two state solution. They chose to square off against Bibi and his ilk, certain that their god would hand them victory. They´re not a necessary evil, they condemned the entire region to this madness
Hamas is an anti colonial resistance movement. The only countries that deem Hamas to be terrorists are the colonial Western powers or their vassals. The rest of the world don't consider them to be terrorists.
Its like calling the Free French army or the Viet Minh terrorists
There is israel the occupier and the oppressor that believe the whole land belong to them and palestinians who sometimes commit act of vengence in response to that. There is only.one bad side.
Your stupid status quo is the reason why israel continue to occupy
Americans, shut the fuck up. You're not helping as is, don't criticise while your own house is burning down.
I kind of thought that they all would have assumed we all just forgot about this pledge they'd made last month. Good on the Commonwealth for showing some integrity!
And let's get to the next step.
I understand this has symbolic significance, but in the end, does it really accomplish anything?
Are any of these countries going to sanction Israel, or... anything?
It's a smoke screen to act like they are not complicit in the genocide
I'm hoping that all the "stateless" Palestinian refugees in these countries are finally able to obtain some sort of recognition and have an easier time regarding residency.
We'll see, though. The British started this whole fucking show after WWII, this is the least they can do.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/countries-that-recognize-taiwan
I don't raise this as a tu quoque kind of argument, just saying that Taiwan is a country that has its shit together far better than palestine (functioning government, democracy, no major terrorist organizations, no wars, trading around the world) and only 12 countries in the world have formally recognized it.
That's because there was money to be made from doing business with China, and the price was selling out Taiwan for that sweet cheap labor.
They probably don't have oil to steal
China is not destroying taiwan, israel is destroying palestine.
Israel is also run by terrorists and was created by terrorists like the lehi and haganah
Good to set the precedent.
Good, now blockade Israel and sink the blockade runners.