Jesus fucking Christ.

Oh yeah, to this day, that massacre is the largest mass shooting ever committed in US soil. And it was done by the US government.

I keep telling Americans that common sense cop control would prevent more mass shootings than any gun law.

I want cop control legislation.
- What would the donors think?
Largest mass shooting so far.
- A regular civilian does not have the firepower needed to kill 300+ people unless you believe an AR-15 is as powerful as an entire artillery battery.
I think this one was bigger based on wounded, but somehow everyone forgets about it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

And white people wonder why we don't trust them with anything.

"It's so long ago! Who cares!"
"So you're fine repudiating it, since you don't care?"
"NEVER! THOSE MURDERERS WERE HEROES!"
It's so frustrating to deal with people who reverse their position on racial justice as soon as it's convenient for them to do so. Frustrating, too, to have fucking family who will look me in the eyes and say shit like that about other atrocities.
Counterpoint: Clarence Thomas. I think you'll find that problem is related to having power to abuse, not melanin concentration in the basal layer of the epidermis.
Counter-counterpoint: Jasmine Crockett. She's fucking awesome.
- I mean yeah assessing people on an individual level is different from collective. Look at the collective history of white people over the past few centuries and it's pretty logical why PoC are going to have their guard up. When white folk came to your country as a group, historical precendent is such that killing and/or stealing are high on the list of potential outcomes.
  The Democratic party supported the civil rights act of 1964 in the US, which ended race based segregation. Since then not a single democratic presidential nominee has won the majority of the white vote. That's some pretty dark shit.
  This doesn't mean that any single individual white person is presumed bad.
White man here: I don't wonder shit. I know why people don't trust us.
I apologize for what my race and gender have done to the world.
- While I believe what you express above comes from a good place of empathy, care, and respect, if you’re open to suggestions, I would offer the following.
  This hat-in-hand attitude often comes across as a tedious neoliberal brand of white guilt and “I acknowledge my privilege” performative social justice that primarily seeks personal absolution from allies rather than a hand in fighting systemic injustice.
  Instead, it is a more useful exercise to consider your privileged identities, such as apparent gender or the color of your skin, as a disavowable inheritance like a family name, rendering them mere tools you bring to the cause of liberation, rather than a scarlet WM you must apologize to your comrades for at every turn.
  Edit: concretely, I mean that it is no better to “other” yourself than someone else. Instead, acknowledge that our perceptions of race and gender are manufactured (and historically none more-so than whiteness and masculinity, easy proxies for explicit political and socioeconomic power). Whiteness and masculinity telegraph it the way a gun telegraphs strength. So instead of apologizing for how the weapons you were born with have been used by oppressors in the past, reject and subvert what they represent by committing them to the cause of those who are oppressed today.
As a humble gringo, I aspire to be the biggest fucking race traitor on God's green earth
- That’s the spirit!

I like how our favorite day drinker is all 'this is final' as if anyone's position in this admin is in any way secure

But they so bravely slaughtered those helpless women and children. Surely that’s a good thing, right? Ffs

"The 9th Bearded Infantry were too brave to accept the surrender"
"Come on boys, those white flags are no match against our muskets!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uvKWBSXbuc

For this 1890 campaign, the U.S. Army awarded 31 Medals of Honor, 19 specifically for service at Wounded Knee.[7][8][56] 18 were awarded in the months after the massacre, and two more awarded in 1893 and 1897 respectively.[57]

In the Nebraska State Historical Society's summer 1994 quarterly journal, Jerry Green construes that pre-1916 Medals of Honor were awarded more liberally; however, "the number of medals does seem disproportionate when compared to those awarded for other battles." Quantifying, he compares the three awarded for the Battle of Bear Paw Mountain's five-day siege, to the twenty awarded for this short and one-sided action.[58] Historian Will G. Robinson notes that, in contrast, only three Medals of Honor were awarded among the 64,000 South Dakotans who fought for four years of World War II.[59] However, historian Dwight Mears points out that awards prior to 1918 were "Medal[s] of Honor in name only," making such comparisons with modern medals inappropriate, since "the medal that existed in 1890 is a materially different award."[60] Mears notes that Army regulations in 1890 stated that "Medals of honor will be awarded, by the President, to officers or enlisted men who have distinguished themselves in action," meaning that they could be awarded for actions that were merely distinguished, not gallant or heroic.[61]

Native American activists have urged the medals be withdrawn, calling them "medals of dishonor". According to Lakota tribesman William Thunder Hawk, "The Medal of Honor is meant to reward soldiers who act heroically. But at Wounded Knee, they didn't show heroism; they showed cruelty." In 2001, the National Congress of American Indians passed two resolutions condemning the Medals of Honor awards and called on the U.S. government to rescind them.[16]

A number of the citations on the medals awarded to the troopers at Wounded Knee state that they went in pursuit of Lakota who were trying to escape or hide.[62] Another citation was for "conspicuous bravery in rounding up and bringing to the skirmish line a stampeded pack mule."[58] Another medal was awarded in part for extending an enlistment.[63] One citation was just "bravery".[57]

This is how you cover up a PR nightmare. The government is afraid of reporting a massacre, that the public may be shocked by the disparity in casualties. Anyone just reading the papers would notice this was a disproportionately large number of dead. You can make any failed mission look like a success, though, if you give everyone medals.

Notice the stupid drunken rapist cunt called it a "battle".

Its the Wounded Knee MASSACRE

why are they like this?

Also the left does a terrible job of advertising they're like this. Like Charlie dying and everyone saying "He's such a good christian"

The left needs to get their asses back on social media and post why they're like this so there is no confusion who these people are.

They do, but the people who most need to see it don’t, because their social media algorithms keep them locked in their echo chamber.
Same reason they never get to see any real news, because they only watch Fox and Newsmax who just lie to them.
- No algorithm can only go so far. At this point they don't even need the algorithm. We're holding the door for Trump and Miller and his goons.

The only thing that cheers me up after learning about wounded knee, is thinking about the death of Custer, I hope he died slow and painfully

You can't say only a nazi regime. These were given out over a century ago, and maintained until an order to review was finally done a couple years ago. Now this nazi regime has chosen to let these butchers keep their medals. Medals like these tarnish those that were given in actual battle for causes that could be considered right, such as shooting a nazi n the face. I'm native, and a member of the Sioux Nation. This announcement was painful to see, but wasn't unexpected. They can't wait to deport us back to the reservations again.

"Battle". You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Here at the N.orth A.merican Z.ealotry I.nstitute we value and support the elimination of all things non-white and non-evangelical. So get out there and kill kill kill. And don’t forget this is for a you-topia not a them-topia.

The voice of Claptrap that I heard while reading this really made me enjoy what you were that much more

I learned this from BioShock Infinite.

Was there some push to revoke their medals? They've been dead for over 100 years. Who cares?

Just performative nonsense.

Funny how easy it is to search the internet for "wounded knee hegseth" and find the answer.
In 2019, Democratic lawmakers, led by Senator Elizabeth Warren of Massachusetts, introduced legislation to revoke the medals from the 20 soldiers involved in the massacre at Wounded Knee after a yearslong pressure campaign by members of the Lakota tribe.
Congress has rescinded more than 900 Medals of Honor since a law passed in 1916 created a board of retired military officers to review previous awards. In 1990, Congress apologized to the descendants of the Native Americans killed and injured at Wounded Knee.
The campaign to remove the medals gained momentum in 2020, when historical and systemic racism received intense attention. Many of the medals given out for the U.S. Army’s Indian Wars for land and resources in the West were for violent acts against Native Americans.
In July 2024, Lloyd J. Austin III, then the defense secretary, convened a panel to review the actions of each soldier at Wounded Knee.
In a video posted on social media on Thursday, Mr. Hegseth said the panel recommended to Mr. Austin in October that the soldiers should keep their medals. Mr. Austin did not make a final decision on the medals, which Mr. Hegseth described as “careless inaction.”
“Under my direction, we’re making it clear without hesitation that the soldiers who fought in the Battle of Wounded Knee in 1890 will keep their medals, and we’re making it clear that they deserved those medals,” Mr. Hegseth said in the video.
- Why would I look it up when I have you to do it for me?
  Anyways, the tribe themselves pushed for it. I support them wanting to discredit the "honor" of past events, but it really changes a whole lot of nothing, really. Feels like they just gave Hegseth the chance to be a douchebag, if nothing else.

Wasn't this the massacre in Bioshock Infinite which Booker DeWitt participated in, and subsequent PTSD set off the game's (and arguably franchise's) events? No wonder it was hated by gamers (derogatory)

Bioshock Infinite was hated? Everyone I've ever heard talk about it loves it.
- No matter how good and loved a game is, there will always be a bunch of people hating on it
- Oh yes, especially among gamers (derogatory). Even a basic search of "bioshock infinite hate" will bring up countless threads. The attacks and abuse got so serious they even made multiple news articles, with some accusing Ken Levine (creator) as a Jew making a white killing simulator.
  But it was very amusing, because if you tried to engage with some of these haters and why they didn't like the plot, they'll say that they hated how Infinite's plot was more "political" whereas Bioshock 1/2 were more "ideological."
  How BioShock Infinite Became One of the Most Controversial Games Ever - https://www.cbr.com/bioshock-infinite-most-controversial-games-ever/
I thought it's because the ending is confusing as heck?
- That, but it was especially because the game didn’t live up to the marketing material. It under delivered on a lot of promises
  I don’t think the massacre had anything to do with the poor reception of the game, or at least I never heard of anyone complaining about it

Why does the sow have a pet?

In a way I'm glad they're not white-washing this. Keep that part of history with its ugliness intact. I think it is important to remember that THIS was and IS the United States of America. It's past is as repugnant as it is powerful. That the banner carrier for democracy has its own ugly nazi past and present that can't be erased. And it has as much moral authority as Hitler in global affairs.

Repudiating the past is an important way of establishing a future. By retaining both the Medal of Honor and these individual citations, we cheapen all present awards, and adulterate the crimes of these men with the genuine sacrifices of those who deserved their medals in American history.
The Roman Emperor Claudius, when removing a certain man with a sordid past from a list of those to suffer public shame, added, "But let it be noted he was removed" - ie that the act of removal itself was notable. This is not a question of shuttering these men down the memory hole, but of acknowledging the horrors of the past and expressing an intention to hold a higher standard not just for our future, but also for how we view our past.

Only a Nazi regime would want to honor that.

Gestures at the Biden administration also refusing to revoke the medals, though for more mundane reasons.

As far as I'm aware, the Biden administration expressed opposition to the medals and was in the process of reviewing the awards.
Like so much of the Biden administration, it was too little, too late, done by process-oriented civility politics milquetoast neoliberal ghouls who valued precedent more highly than justice, or even self-preservation, but I don't think 'want to honor' the massacre is really the description of reviewing the validity of the medals.
Much more damning is that Biden waited until 2024 to order the review when there was no pressing political reason keeping him from doing so earlier, at least not after the hard-fought Inflation Reduction Act was passed in late 2022. I suppose Biden thought it a better tool to assist the 2024 election - typical of both his incompetence and opportunism that such a measure should be self-defeating on multiple levels, and that the rest of us should have to all fucking pay for it.

How do you think everyone else got their medals? By tickling people?

When the color sergeant was shot down, this soldier grasped the flag, led the way to the parapet, and planted the colors thereon. When the troops fell back he brought off the flag, under a fierce fire in which he was twice severely wounded.[13]
Upon hearing that a squad leader of his platoon had been severely wounded while attempting to capture an enemy machine-gun nest about 200 yards in advance of the assault line and somewhat to the right, 2d Lt. Baesel requested permission to go to the rescue of the wounded corporal. After thrice repeating his request and permision [sic] having been reluctantly given, due to the heavy artillery, rifle, and machine-gun fire, and heavy deluge of gas in which the company was at the time, accompanied by a volunteer, he worked his way forward, and reaching the wounded man, placed him upon his shoulders and was instantly killed by enemy fire.
Learning that 2 daylight patrols had been caught out in No Man's Land and were unable to return, Pfc. Barger and another stretcher bearer upon their own initiative made 2 trips 500 yards beyond our lines, under constant machinegun fire, and rescued 2 wounded officers.[2]
Private First Class Barkley, who was stationed in an observation post half a kilometer from the German line, on his own initiative repaired a captured enemy machinegun and mounted it in a disabled French tank near his post. Shortly afterward, when the enemy launched a counterattack against our forces, Private First Class Barkley got into the tank, waited under the hostile barrage until the enemy line was abreast of him and then opened fire, completely breaking up the counterattack and killing and wounding a large number of the enemy. Five minutes later an enemy 77-millimeter gun opened fire on the tank pointblank. One shell struck the drive wheel of the tank, but this soldier nevertheless remained in the tank and after the barrage ceased broke up a second enemy counterattack, thereby enabling our forces to gain and hold Hill 25.[3]
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving with the Fourth Marine Division during action against enemy Japanese forces on Roi Island, Kwajalein Atoll, Marshall Islands, February 1, 1944. Entering a shell crater occupied by three other Marines, Private First Class Anderson was preparing to throw a grenade at an enemy position when it slipped from his hands and rolled toward the men at the bottom of the hole. With insufficient time to retrieve the armed weapon and throw it, Private First Class Anderson fearlessly chose to sacrifice himself and save his companions by hurling his body upon the grenade and taking the full impact of the explosion. His personal valor and exceptional spirit of loyalty in the face of almost certain death were in keeping with the highest traditions of the United States Naval Service. He gallantly gave his life for his country.
For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty: First Lieutenant Vernon J. Baker distinguished himself by extraordinary heroism in action on 5 and 6 April 1945. At 0500 hours on 5 April 1945, Lieutenant Baker advanced at the head of his weapons platoon, along with Company C's three rifle platoons, towards their objective, Castle Aghinolfi – a German mountain strong point on the high ground just east of the coastal highway and about two miles from the 370th Infantry Regiment's line of departure. Moving more rapidly than the rest of the company, Lieutenant Baker and about 25 men reached the south side of a draw some 250 yards from the castle within two hours. In reconnoitering for a suitable position to set up a machine gun, Lieutenant Baker observed two cylindrical objects pointing out a slit in a mount at the edge of a hill. Crawling up and under the opening, he stuck his M-1 into the slit and emptied the clip, killing the observation post's two occupants. Moving to another position in the same area, Lieutenant Baker stumbled upon a well-camouflaged machine gun nest, the crew of which was eating breakfast. He shot and killed both enemy soldiers. After Captain John F. Runyon, Company C's Commander joined the group, a German soldier appeared from the draw and hurled a grenade which failed to explode. Lieutenant Baker shot the enemy soldier twice as he tried to flee. Lieutenant Baker then went down into the draw alone. There he blasted open the concealed entrance of another dugout with a hand grenade, shot one German soldier who emerged after the explosion, tossed another grenade into the dugout and entered firing his sub-machine gun killing two more Germans. As Lieutenant Baker climbed back out of the draw, enemy machine gun and mortar fire began to inflict heavy casualties among the group of 25 soldiers, killing or wounding about two-thirds of them. When expected reinforcements did not arrive, Captain Runyon ordered a withdrawal in two groups. Lieutenant Baker volunteered to cover the withdrawal of the first group, which consisted mostly of walking wounded, and to remain to assist in the evacuation of the more seriously wounded. During the second group's withdrawal, Lieutenant Baker, supported by covering fire from one of the platoon members, destroyed two machine gun positions (previously bypassed during the assault) with hand grenades. In all, Lieutenant Baker accounted for nine enemy dead soldiers, elimination of three machine gun positions, an observation post, and a dugout. On the following night, Lieutenant Baker voluntarily led a battalion advance through enemy mine fields and heavy fire toward the division objective. Lieutenant Baker's fighting spirit and daring leadership were an inspiration to his men and exemplify the highest traditions of the military service.
For honorable conduct in wartime, not for the massacre of helpless civilians.
What? What the fuck are you taking about?
- Presumably these are examples of medals of honor that aren't about massacring civilians.
One of my great-grandfathers got one for being part of a secret resistance network against the Nazis.
I am not sure what he actually did, but he had fake papers as the Germans obtained his personal information and were actively trying to find him. Doubts he wore a uniform and weapon during that time.
Tell me you don’t know who Desmond Doss is without telling me you don’t know who Desmond Doss is.