Slack Vs Microsoft Teams — Which App Is Better For Your Privacy & Security? [Mozilla Foundation]

Dogs literally eat their own vomit. I'll take a horse shit sandwich any dy of the week.

You got the ma, and the nure. Doesn't sound so bad!

As much as a lot of that hate it warranted, I’d say the install location isn’t so much a Teams issue as it is a Windows issue and how it handles user-level vs system-level installs. Obviously still a Microsoft problem, but important to note.

For extremely large meetings (a few hundred people), Zoom might still have the edge. I am always surprised how well they handle that. Even if it's not moderated and anyone is allowed to talk at any time. They have some very good algorithms in regards to video stream routing.

Meet got a lot better in that regard too, however. Before COVID Meet wasn't really usable for more than a dozen people (IMO). Now it can also easily handle one or two hundred.

And yes, for the quick team meeting or a short chat it's just so convenient. Share link and go. It remembers the settings from last time and you are ready. The only thing that still confuses the shit out of me is that when more than a specific amount of participants are in the meeting, new members join muted. If I am late to meetings I tend to miss that detail and then need a few seconds to realize that no one hears me. I would probably prefer if it was consistent (you always join muted or you never join muted ... or you actively have to decide or something).

Right, I should've said that "personal stuff should not be on there". I forgot how some people somehow don't get the distinction between work and personal assets.

That's how it always was and how it should be. Everything you do using corporate resources belongs to the company. If you want to send some memes to your friend, just Whatsapp them from your personal phone.

As for why it should be this way, that's quite simple. If a person A is working on something, sends a draft over email to the client and then gets sick, someone else, person B, should pick up the work. And if person A didn't use best practices and the only copy of the draft is in the email, then person B should have access to person A email to fetch the draft.

they should, especially as a smaller business, as data leaks could run into GDPR problems. my ex-employer, for example, handled all customer data in plaintext and never delete data for people who were no longer customers. he also insisted on using non-secured channels for business related information/secrets. and zero backup systems. malware ripe for the taking lol. had one system crash and he went mental but refused to accept a backup solution. absolutely no understanding of IT and deaf to any recommendations because of fear that he'd be unable to replace me with a cheaper employee once i was done setting everything up.

three years later, three employees later, and the cheaper replacements were unable to do anything anyway and it's all broken now. but i'm sure in his mind it's all my fault.

so yes, they don't, either due to incompetence or to cut corners. but they definitely should.

I honestly don’t know why any medium sized company would use a proprietary chat service.

Your company should want private data on a service they control.

Matrix has channels. Or what are you referring to? I did nor use slack since many years

Jitsi isn't really a Slack alternative. Instead, it's more of a Zoom alternative.

However, Matrix is a great Slack alternative. Slack channels are similar to Matrix rooms, which can be organized into Matrix spaces. Matrix supports threads, replies, attachments, and formatted text like markdown or HTML. Slack's snippet functionality is not as great on Matrix and Slack's integrations with other services are likely easier to setup. There is likely a bunch of other pros/cons to Slack/Matrix depending on your use cases. The caveat is that you'll need to use a Matrix client and Matrix homeserver that support the Matrix functionality that you want.

If you want something that's more like Slack you should check out Mattermost. It's got a few other features like a Notion-like project management and a checklist feature. But like Matrix/Element it's open source and can be self hosted if you don't want to use their cloud product.

Yeah this article is kind of pointless for me since I have no say in the matter

Even if your organization is ok with it, other companies might not be. Eventually you’ll have to communicate with people from other companies, which means you can’t avoid Teams forever.