2y ago

Nikki Haley doesn't cite slavery as cause of the Civil War after question at campaign stop

abcnews.go.com Nikki Haley doesn't cite slavery as cause of the Civil War after question at campaign stop

Presidential hopeful Nikki Haley did not cite slavery as a cause of the American Civil War when asked at a campaign event on Wednesday night.

She responded it was about “basically how the government was going to run."

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Of course she ignores slavery. She's a conservative. Conservatives were responsible for slavery and they are tired of being called out for it. They would bring it back immediately if they weren't actively stopped by progressives.
Nearly every act of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, antisemitism or other bigotry ever committed on earth has been at the hands of conservatives.
There is no place in a modern culture for conservatism. Teach your children why it is immoral to keep relationships or do business with such people. Marginalize hate by marginalizing those who hate.
- This is some crazy partisan shit.
  "Nearly every act of racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, misogyny, antisemitism or other bigotry ever committed on earth has been at the hands of conservatives."
  Let's talk about first and second wave feminists or terfs like Sheila Jeffreys. Or who pushed Don't Ask Don't Tell policies. Or some the unsavory views of Theodore Roosevelt. There are so many instances of progressives and liberals getting it wrong and causing harm. Conservatives do sometimes get it right if they are consistent. This current brand of American conservatism is bonkers though.
  
  Let's talk about first and second wave feminists
  Gloria Steinem is still a queen no matter what happens ;)
  
  It does bug me that partisans of either stripe conveniently ignore so much in order to find satisfaction with their preferred narrative.
- I don’t fully agree with the details and history of what you are saying, but I absolutely agree with your general sentiment….
  The history of us political parties is not that simple, and we have not always just had the democrat and Republican parties…. I see you said the word conservative, but a hundred years ago pretty much everyone would agree with our modern “Republican” party over our modern democrat party…. But times have changed, and I would agree many conservatives are stuck in an archaic mindset no longer compatible with the modern world
  
  I sort of understand the downvotes here but also don't at the same time. Southern Democrats can be a bit of a surprise to newer generations not steeped in US history of the southern Dixiecrats and the southern block they use to rule with until they finally broke up and switched to the Republicans.
  The comment above is sticking with Conservatives and Progressive which today most would equate to Republicans and Democrats respectively within the US.
  This meme is a quick hey what?
  
  This is for those that want to know ~~much~~ *more in depth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Democrats
  
  regardless of what political party the aligned themselves with, the political views of conservatives remain the same. that's why the person you replied to didn't identify those they referring to by their political party, but by their political views: conservatism.
  
  I love how this community has clearly become such an echo chamber that even people who try to speak with even a bit of logic and measure get downvoted to hell. Our words fall on deaf ears here.

Former Texan here. Bring up the fact (and it is a fact) that the creation of Texas and its subsequent fight for independence was 100% slavery. Enjoy the fireworks.
- Texas "was received as a commonwealth holding, maintaining and protecting the institution known as negro slavery-- the servitude of the African to the white race within her limits-- a relation that had existed from the first settlement of her wilderness by the white race, and which [Texas] people intended should exist in all future time"
  Gee, what a hard question to figure out from historical sources, guess we'll never know what they were thinking...
  
  It is a mystery.

Nimarata Nikki Randhawa doesn't want to use her real name and Rafael Edward Cruz doesn't either.
Some family values. What are they trying to hide from us?
- She's gone by Nikki forever, and her married name is Haley.
  There's a ton of legitimate reasons to criticize her - let's stick with those.
  Though honestly I'm probably going to vote in the Republican primaries this round to vote for her over Trump. I'm confident the Dems of the ballot will be people I can live with, so I might as well try to influence the Republican ticket.
  Especially because I live in a state that's voting GOP no matter what.
  
  It's not a criticism, it's denoting hypocrisy and we should be highlighting it as much as possible
- In fairness she’s married to Michael Haley. It was only the right wingers that insisted on calling Obama Barrack Hussein.

Aside from the obvious racist subtext to her answer, it's pretty shocking how completely incapable she is of stringing a coherent sentence together.
The freedoms and what people could and couldn't do
How old are you??
Also
FREEDOM TO DO WHAT, NIKKI? FREEDOM TO DO WHAT
- The freedom to have the freedom to tell people about freedom and the freedom you have.
- with tip-toing like that, i was expecting her to do a pirouette!
- "Fweedom"

She knows where her racist, lost cause bread is buttered.
- It's not a lost cause for the candidates. These fuckers can loan their campaigns money at 20% interest legally and just pocket their contributors' cash.
  They can also write books and easily make money there too.
  It's a cash grab.

She doesn't know. She's a moron.
- Or she does know but wishes to spread willful ignorance for power

If Nikki Haley is having a townhall in your area please take the time out of your day to ask her this question. She should be required to answer this everywhere she goes.

"Basically how the government was going to be run..." in regards to WHAT, Nikki?!?

It's like everyone who tries to defend the Rebellion has never read the CSA Constitution. It's pretty obvious it was about slavery.
- The worst part is that she seems to be saying that she knows it was about slavery but people now feel like it was about state’s rights so that’s what is important.

It was only about slavery, wasn’t it?

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