When going to use Adobe express on Firefox it comes up with the following message, saying that this browser doesn't play well with others and that I should use Safari, Google Chrome, or Microsoft Edge instead.
“Firefox gives the user too much control, so we decided to introduce incompatibility and then blame it on Firefox. Since we’re a huge software company, we could easily fix this… but we won’t. That’s okay, though, because we wrote a cute error message. Enjoy!”
Firefox and Safari are the sole exception to the monoculture that is the Blink engine. Most developers just use whatever comes in the latest Chromium and call it a day - for them accommodating for less than 20% of the market when they can simply join the 80% is wasting time in the long tail of the Pareto rule. Which is why I loathe Google having so much de facto power on the W3C.
I try to do my part to resist the monoculture by using Firefox everywhere I can, from mobile to my work computers. It's true that I do run into sites that just break because everybody uses Chrome. Well, I'm somebody who isn't using it. I will be the change I want to see in the world, even if in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter.
Windows is such a shitty platform, with each update they force you to use their browser it's insane, the ammount of popups and shit they push onto you it's just crazy. If you browse in windows they sometimes give you web results that you can only see inside of Bing where you get 10 popups to get Edge, now they are introducing some AI Copilot assistant built in into windows that also forces you to use Bing and install Edge in every step you take.
If you want to use Firefox I highly recommend using Linux since Windows is spying to you anway so it's not even worth bothering with not using Edge on there.
But on the other hand, by and large complete cross-browser HTML compliance is not that hard though. A couple extra couple hours to verify your code works everywhere instead of just the one engine isn't all that huge a sacrifice. I really feel like probably 9 out of 10 companies are putting up barriers to Firefox just because they are lazy not because it doesn't work (or couldn't work with a couple tweaks.)
I mean if we are being realistic vast majority of users use Chromium based browsers and they don't even see it as worth bothering with, that doesn't justify anything but just pointing out the mindset of these companies.
Pretty much this TBH. Like, complaining that Adobe doesn't want to support Firefox is like complaining because your Norton Antivirus doesn't like your VPN. It's kinda to be expected.
Combining that with all the anti-Microsoft talk in the thread just makes it funnier to me, as a combination Linux and Windows user who uses almost an entire program suite of free or cheap alternatives to the big names (Krita/Blender/etc. instead of Adobe, Firefox, LibreOffice, etc.)
Like, complaining that Adobe doesn't want to support Firefox is like complaining because your Norton Antivirus doesn't like your VPN. It's kinda to be expected
I'd say this is different because Firefox is a browser. It renders websites in the (almost) exact same way as Chrome. If OP changed their useragent to a Chrome one, the site would most likely work perfectly fine. But for some reason Adobe went out of their way to block Firefox users
People need to be spamming regulators, not just the compact. All the compact can do is "work with" websites that don't fuction with Firefox. They have zero authority. Attempting to appeal to these websites, Adobe especially, based on the ideals of the open web is laughable.
We have to accept that companies like Adobe aren't cooporating with Firefox, not because they can't be bothered to support it, but becasue it is hostile to their monitization and therefore deliberatly ignored. I'm also going to put on my tinfoil hat here and guess Microsoft is behind the scenes whispering into every ear they can reach about how forcing all coorporate web use into the Edge browser is more "secure and manageable".
This is something that needs regulatory intervention. Appealing to the corporate framers of the "new" internet is hopeless.
Edit: to clarify, is it even legal for a company to block access to a website based on the browser the user chooses, even if there are no apparent technical reasons.
As someone that is the manager of a web app for a FANG company, it’s not easy to support everything. Right now we don’t support Firefox because the APIs we use (and don’t own) don’t support it. To enable support is then dependent on those other companies/teams to add support which can sometimes be years to develop. Chrome is easier to support because it’s based on Safari and so many other browsers use it as well.
This attitude makes my blood boil. Firefox is the last FOSS web-rendering engine standing against your privacy-destroying FAANG oligopoly. If we lose Firefox, the web becomes de-facto privatized.
Some trust-busting is in order. Hopefully Brussels is on the case.
NB: this vituperation is obviously directed to your company, not you personally.
To be clear, this is not an “attitude” or my personal view. This is just the reality of the situation. It takes years to develop comparable tech that allows apps to work across platforms. This is the same reason that Windows is prioritized over macOS, and macOS over Linux. It is just the realities of development and targeting the largest user bases.
Google used Apples WebKit and is still closely aligned to it.
Edit: So while technically Chrome is not a fork of Safari, they used enough of Apples tech that personally I don’t think it can be considered a uniquely independent product.