[help][answered] Is pirated tutorials forbidden here ?
[help][answered] Is pirated tutorials forbidden here ?
Hello,
Edit thank to PriorPtoject I discovered the modlog : https://sopuli.xyz/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost&userId=1683334
I recently posted a tutorial to pirate on steamdeck which was removed.
I checked th rule and it doesn't appear to be forbidden are the rules out of date or did I miss a rule ?
Tutorials on how to use and install the legal side of emulators are allowed, it’s when you encroach on copyright that things become a problem. Piracy is not allowed.
Do not post links to sources of copyrighted materials.
Pictures of your Deck running software never published to PC are questionable. My biggest problem with /r/steamdeck is how it made me feel like I joined a bad faith community by buying the device.
There are a handful of moderators and we discuss as a group before we take action. I am not the only voice, so you may opt to wait for others to comment.
17Thanks for the reply.
I didn't link to anything, maybe it is because I mentioned two repackers.
I explained how to combine tools included in the deck (more precisely in package manager ) to be able to get pirated games.
But I guess that was to close of the border.
2Why are you kissing up to pirates you stupid fucktard, piracy is wrong and illegal fuck anyone who does it or supports it.
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I think it's important for posters to see from the side of mods. I'm not a mod here and speaking out of my butt so please take everything with a grain of salt.
I am a big advocate of hacking and doing slightly non-acceptable things out of curiosity.
But I'm also not interested in dealing with legal threats or being pulled into weird scenarios all because one person has a strong opinion about right & wrong.
When I face that issue, I instead encourage the poster/author to instead create a separate Convo somewhere else that is outside of the responsibility of the mod team. Like, I support your actions but I'm not going to stress over it. Because at the end of the day, I'm just trying to provide a space for the majority and have fun with the convos.
13Hello, I can understand that. That why I ask for the reason to be able to understand since removing a post is not communicating.
4Are you aware of the modlog? Post removals generally do have an explanation. There's a handy one in your case:
Discussion on how to pirate games is not allowed. We'll update the rules to be more transparent about this.
https://sopuli.xyz/modlog?page=1&actionType=ModRemovePost&userId=1683334
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It's actually kind of funny that emulators, which explicitly violate copyright law in the US as a circumvention measure prohibited by the DMCA as well as infringing for any rom created after the 1920s (ie. all of them) which have not been placed into the public domain, are perfectly fine here because that doesn't "feel" like piracy since the games are not generating revenue.
Anyway, you're almost certainly looking for !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com instead of this community. I didn't even know that community existed until yesterday with the kerfuffle over lemmy.world defederating from dbzer0.com. Streisand effect-ish in a way. Best of luck, and keep a keen eye out for the EIC.
-2It's actually kind of funny that emulators, which explicitly violate copyright law in the US as a circumvention measure prohibited by the DMCA
Except this is false. Emulation is legal per the DMCA, and this was settled decades ago. It's downloading ROMs that is illegal
11Although I agree with you for the most part, as far as I understand it, there seems to be different layers to this.
Emulators are legal if they're built from ground up, but if they use any code from the actual system, it's illegal. For example, I think Dolphin tried to get on Steam, but they were disallowed because they used a "leaked copy of the Wii Common Code".
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. The piracy talk recently have been kind of interesting, because a couple of the emulator communities I'm involved in require proof of dump for any help such as Yuzu's Discord.
1That's a fine distinction, and requires that no decryption or protection is removed as part of the emulation software - which is entirely true for a very nice, neat, theoretical legal argument. It's like saying Plex is designed for playing your format shifted media and there is nothing illegal about that, or that I arrange copyrighted songs for only for myself and never print them out, only perform them for my personal enjoyment or as part of a blanket license at a venue. All 100% legal, as long as nobody considers reality. I have no problem with any of it, but it's worth admitting that we're counting angels on the head of a pin.
(Note: I also run a plex server and I have format shifted my own physical media, of which I have kept the physical media and do not loan them out - as part of my collection).
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I guess they have to draw a line somewhere.
Yeah I posted my tuto in !steamdeckpirates@lemmy.dbzer0.com already.
That look like a sweet spot to start a pirate community for SteamDeck.
Seem a little empty now though
4It does seem fairly empty at the moment. TBH, I don't have enough time to play the games I've paid for (or gotten from Epic), but it's interesting that it's out there.
edit: there is about twice the unfederated content on the dbzer0 server compared to what is here on Sopuli (as of this morning) if that matters.
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I think they just blocked !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com rather than defederating completely.
3Yes - good correction, thank you.
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Piracy is wrong and illegal, of coarse it is forbidden here and everywhere. People who pirate shit are the scum of the earth.
-3Found the EA representative
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