"Heads up, there won’t be a WAN Show this week. Instead, we will continue to focus on addressing issues raised both internally and by the community during our production break. We appreciate you all for your patience."
WAN Show's real appeal (to me, at least) has always been the unfiltered and real time conversations. Though as of late, those conversations have been more about creating controversy then real discussion 😐
As much as I like WAN show, it does seem a bit symptomatic of the overwork. They go until after midnight on a Friday night? And frequently they call someone who should be home?
Merch messages have metastasized it a bit. Maybe they should just prerecord it during work hours, and answer merch messages from the previous week? Would be less interactive, but most of the curated merch messages seem to be general questions anyway, rather than topic specific questions? They could still automatically show current merch messages in the banner as the video goes live?
I at least hope they are either paying Dan overtime or letting him shift his hours around.
An after hours podcast is not inherently bad. Hell, the vast majority of social media facing companies have to work off hours simply because the stream watchers are at work otherwise.
The key is that this needs to be part of the work week. If you are expected to work 4 PM to 9 PM on a Friday, it needs to be in the job description and those hours have to come off the other end.
Shit like this is incredibly common in tech as well. We have to maintain some services for customers. Not true HA but pretty available. We have a rotation of who is on call and the people who are get the equivalent of time and a half for that (we are salaried so it is a small bonus) and are told to not come in to work on Tuesday or whatever (since Monday may be required to debrief on issues).
Yup, agreed. In isolation, working late or unusual hours is not bad, but with the other things going on, perhaps worth them stepping back and evaluating if it's the right thing to do.
I doubt Colton has an on-call agreement to cover him getting call up on the show.
I am currently doing on-call work, I get a daily lump sum to hold the phone, and a fixed call out sum of I get called out. There are lots of different arrangements it seems. Compensation and balance is key though
Hope Dan is getting reimbursed as well, though if Madison's claim about time off is to be believed, I don't have much confidence in that.
A bit of a side tangent, but the way Linus talks to Dan has always kinda rubbed me the wrong way. There's jokey "Dan wants me to do this but I'm gonna do this instead" banter that's ok but there are times where Linus just seems to openly disregard Dan and blame him for his own fuckups on the show. Not trying to be a parasocial Andy here but it does make the podcast harder to listen to, imo.
They've been using polls for a lot for a while now - even things that were recently criticized like the Framework investment, was originally a poll on WAN asking how the audience felt about the ethical implications of that investment. And whether the audience thought it was acceptable so long as they always disclaim that Linus is a Framework investor during coverage of other laptops. To me it kinda makes sense how they could get so caught up in an echo chamber of die-hard fans who encourage them into things that people who aren't in that core fan group see as problematic or at least ethically questionable. I see using fans to guide decision making as one of the root problems at LTT, because fans, pretty much by definition, already think you can do no wrong, and will often be blind to the way things look to a broader audience.
They had exclusives already produced, uploaded and scheduled to go live, so no actual work to release them. The poll was if they should let those go ahead or hold them back in the spirit of the break.
These people are paying for content. Seems to make sense that they would be involved in the decision to stop producing content. Although the smarter thing may have been to just discount their subscriptions by 25% for the month.
If they continue it meant they value tradition more than righting the wrongs. Remember that it's deep seated tradition that allowed the work culture to fester in the first place.
Why should it be the end of LTT? That's so not constructive! We should strive toward forcing a change at the company, but not ending its existence! There are many people employed there, and whatever has occurred regarding Madison, only a fraction of those working there 9 to 5 will have had anything to do with it.
I'm not in the crowd of should be, and I'm all for second chances. But, I could see why someone wouldn't want Linus, and a company under his name, to not be successful because of who he is and what's happening. Liking a product but not the person behind it is ok. Making a choice not to support either is also ok.
Does anyone have any suitable "alternatives" in podcasts which are similar to the WAN Show in atmosphere? (As in: longer conversations about tech-adjecent topics) I don't feel comfortable wanting to go near LMG's content (my only consistent watching was the WAN Show to be frank) after these discoveries.
Probably the level 1 techs various shows, used to be one big thing but now I think they release different "categories" each day or something, it's been a while since I've watched them, damn you YouTube messing with my feed.