Reddit beats film industry again, won’t have to reveal pirates’ IP addresses
Reddit beats film industry again, won’t have to reveal pirates’ IP addresses
Firms wanted seven years' worth of IP address logs on users who discussed piracy.
Reddit beats film industry again, won’t have to reveal pirates’ IP addresses::Firms wanted seven years' worth of IP address logs on users who discussed piracy.
Discussing " "piracy" " (unauthorized copying) does not equate to being guilty of it: title aught to say "alleged".
52The film industry in this case wasn't after the data to go after the individuals who made the posts but to use them as witnesses against their ISPs who did nothing in response to piracy complaints. The DMCA has a requirement for a repeat infringer policy and evidence that the ISPs knew about the piracy and that their users chose them or stayed with them because the ISP wouldn't kick them off goes a long way to winning the case against the ISP. They were going after the deep pockets.
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Would a lemmy insurance stand up to such a request?
Or is this a case where from a privacy perspective, Lemmy is worse
15I had this conversation with one of my instance’s mods about a month ago.
Essentially:
If provided with a court order, we could theoretically provide:
- Email address
- Record of all comments / posts made by the user
- Incoming/outgoing DMs for the user
- Voting activity made by that user
- Communities subscribed to
(I think that's everything off the top of my head)
IP addresses are not logged in the db or linked to a user, but if the RCMP shows up with a warrant and says "We want all IP addresses that submitted a comment at 09:11:43am PST Jan 16 2024" then I'd be able to get that from the access logs. Access logs are only stored for 14 days and then purged, DB backups are taken daily and stored for 30 days.
34Lemmy instances would probably have far fewer resources to fight with. But also more likely to fly under the radar so I don’t know overall.
Hopefully this information is not being retained so until industry players take notice it should be safe.
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This is the best summary I could come up with:
In a motion to compel that was filed last month, movie companies Voltage Holdings and Screen Media Ventures argued that "Reddit users do not have a recognized privacy interest in their IP addresses."
But in Wednesday's ruling, US Magistrate Judge Thomas Hixson said, "The Court finds no reason to believe provision of an IP address is not unmasking subject to First Amendment scrutiny."
Voltage Holdings and Screen Media Ventures previously sued the Internet service provider Frontier Communications, alleging that it is liable for its users' copyright infringement.
The fact that movie companies only sought IP addresses instead of names this time around wasn't enough to sway the court.
As in the previous cases, the movie companies "cannot show that the information they seek here is unavailable from other sources," Hixson wrote.
Voltage Holdings and Screen Media Ventures cited Reddit posts in which users say that Frontier didn't terminate their Internet service despite sending many copyright infringement notices about torrent downloads.
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5Fuck Reddit, 'cuz I'm over here now. (in the best Diceman voice I can muster)
1I love reddit
-23posting that take to lemmy? good luck, you'll need it
23I think it's fair enough to look for the good things that they do, and see if there's a model we can follow for ourselves.
Running a site is one thing, dealing with external factors (local laws, legal requests, public opinion, etc.) is another mess. I'd rather we figured things out now and had some best practices in place, rather than scrambling when the time comes
4Even a broken clock…
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Yeah me too, I love it when they do the right thing. Of course we only know what they refuse to do, what they agree isn't public.
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