I’m 18 — and facing jail because I won’t fight for Israel

Sofia Orr is likely to become the first woman since then to be jailed for refusing military service, but believes it is ‘wrong to take children and make them into soldiers’

And she's right.

Any government/country is actually just a kind of service (you pay taxes and get different goods from it). Every person should have the right to choose the provider of this service (change the country) or completely refrain from it. It means that mandatory military service is no less than slavery. People are not guilty for being born in a country they don't want to fight for (or that they don't want to fight at all)

KEEP IT UP!

The Israeli prison system is already overflowing because of the war. Make it flow over even worse.

As of last week, the number of prisoners in Israeli jails numbered some 19,372, an increase of over 3,000 since October and significantly more than the maximum prison population of 14,500 mandated by law.

(I'm quoting Times of Israel but I don't want to link them in any form, you can find that if you want to.)

Here's another figured from them

Amid the war in the Gaza Strip, the IDF has called up a total of 287,000 reservists

The total prison capacity is 14.500, and it's already overflowing.

Even if every 50th IDF reservist or conscript refuses to go, it's still 6000 people more for them to deal with. If every tenth conscript/reservist refused, it'd be twice the total prison capacity on top of the already problematically overflowing prisons.

Swamp the system.

So even a tiny majority refusing to go and instead choosing prison over participating in genocide can have a huge impact, indirectly.

We gotta admit that a large portion of the IDF are just a bunch of indoctrinated teens who had no choice. They are victims of Israel too.

I'm surprised she's the first woman to be jailed for this... really thought this was more common than that. I would totally do months of even a couple of years of prison or whatever just so not to kill X number of civilian men, women, and children on Gaza... simply because that's not something I'd be able to live with.

She has actual courage. Just simply doing what you're told without question makes you as weak as the rest.

Based. Maybe she can get political asylum from Fascism.

Refusing to be complicit in Genocide? Believe it or not, Jail.

I mean there are good arguments both for and against compulsory military service, but only in countries that aren't prosecuting a war of genocide. Israel can go get fucked and so can America for propping it up. In fact it's more proper to lay the blame at America's feet than even Israels, since they've been "the adult in the room" (the one with the guns) who has been enabling it.

When the world is run by criminals, being lawful is made a crime.

It is wrong to take anyone, including adult men, and make them into a soldier. There are times when it's unavoidable, but doing so to commit genocide is obviously always fully wrong.

thetimes are a murdock owned news network.

Paywall. There are deferments you can get so you don’t have to fight. What’s the full story here?

Hasn't it always been young people who make the bulk of the armies?

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Sorry. Choose your governments carefully.

I'd be happier probably dying for a cause I hate fir a couple of years rather than rotting in a military prison for the rest of eternity.

Israelis have had conscription for years.

Suddenly she sees what the fuck is going on when some skin is required to play the game.

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I don't know why this is even news. She maintains that viewpoint when she gets out then she is going back to jail.

Either way, this story is one of laziness and entitlement. She wants the comfort of living where she does without having to do what others have done before her to get that level of comfort. She isn't doing this in protest of what is happening in Gaza, she just doesn't want to be in the army.