Europe will lose all credibility if Russia wins in Ukraine, warns French president Macron

U.S. conservatives are champing at the bit to see Europe fall to Russia. Action needs to happen now, or the U.S. could have a conservative government that backs Putin. That would be the end of Europe.

We need to join Europe right now in a full-scale defense of Ukraine. Otherwise we are allowing Putin to take Europe simply by threat of nuclear action. We need to strike first, disarm the dictator and repel the Russian invasion. And we need to do it now. The clock is ticking.

Credibility is not the only thing Europe is bound to lose if Russia is victorious.

Second moment in recent history when the french end up being the tellers of uncomfortable truths

We should have admitted Ukraine into NATO a long time ago.

Citing the same interview, the U.S. magazine Newsweek published an article with Macron saying that Ukraine must reclaim Crimea to achieve real peace

We need to start defining what a win and what a loss is. I feel that this could vary on some parts

Are there elections coming in France?

We are hearing big words from Macron over and over in the last few weeks to support Ukraine - yet France is far behind when in comes to supporting Ukraine financially or with military equipment. And please don't bring that Reddit meme 'France is doing everything secretly and nobody knows about it'. Democratic financing in billions of Euros is public and not a high toilet paper bill like in Hollywood movies from the 80s. There is of course a lot of proportionate support by France within the EU-assistance, as France is a big economy and paying into the EU budget. It's a similar situation with Italy, as they are another big economy within the EU. Both EU 'power houses' are far behind when it comes to direct support for Ukraine.

Macron has been telling us just last week, that the local EU arms industry needs more orders to enable low and competitive prices. He also told us support for Ukraine should only receive subsidies for EU-made products. And last week we saw statistics that the arm industry/exports from the USA and France profited the most from the Russian invasion in Ukraine, as everyone is getting their military up to date and ordering a lot. So everything plays in his hands and France is reaping in big profits and getting support for its huge arms industry. Yet, the country is far behind in supporting Ukraine and Macron keeps calling other countries to support Ukraine more - or here that 'Europe will lose all credibility'.

What is going on here? Elections?

As if Europe or the „Western“ world in general would still have any credibility with the Gaza genocide.

I truly feel sorry for Ukrainians as the support for the resistance was never about actual solidarity or values.

Putin needs to die.

It feels like the cited statement actually lacks causality. If Ukraine falls, nobody will remain at peace, that's true. But how does that change the credibility of Europe except for showing that maybe help was not large enough (even that might be a wrong assumption) is what I fail to see.

If anything, the credibility of Europe could be questioned over the efficiency of sanctions and over how those sanctions actually affect Putin's war

maybe the first time that i agree with macron

This is where Macron is wrong, Europe and the West already lost all credibility when they chose to be complicit in the genocide in Gaza.

*has lost

No it won't.

As a pacifist who's sick of demagoguery being the norm, I fucking hate it when politicians and military people use "credibility" as a euphemism for "militarily powerful" 🤬

How can ukraine even win? Like there is no venue left other than NATO troops... oh..

Can somebody explain how not admitting Ukraine to NATO and ceding Crimea and the Donbas means "the end of Europe"? The alternative seems to be endless bloodshed and the complete destruction of the country.

Not a big loss. Still much better than the rebel north American colonies.